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I think you underrate Libbers kicking. Tom has a neat left foot thats better than average. IIRC, Libber won the Nathan Buckley kicking test at the draft camp.
I agree Wallis is an accumulater but I think his kicking is better than Cross. He should be targetting a Watson or Mitchell type level. Neither of whom are great kicks but not seen as a weakness (only recently in Jobes case). I very much like the Watson comparison actually. Came as a highly touted Father-Son, did not meet initial expectations due to kicking and speed, now ripping it up as captain and their key mid. Hope Wallis follows the same path.
I don't think we have too much to worry about with Wallis though. Some players, as other posters have stated, don't have clear attributes that assist them adjusting to AFL level immediately. Wallis will just have to work his bum off, kind of like Matthew Boyd who ended up going ok throughout his career.TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.Comment
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If Wallis could get to a Mitchell standard on both sides then we'd have to be pretty happy with that.
I don't think we have too much to worry about with Wallis though. Some players, as other posters have stated, don't have clear attributes that assist them adjusting to AFL level immediately. Wallis will just have to work his bum off, kind of like Matthew Boyd who ended up going ok throughout his career.
Re: Murph, he's a defender who will be swung forward at times for the rest of his career. He has 3-5 years left playing that role (at an elite level, mind you), he'll be retired with bung knees by the end of next year playing exclusively as a forward.Comment
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I haven't heard about any attitude issues with Wallis previously Lantern, if anything I was led to believe he had a good attitude as was shown with the way he attacked his 1st preseason by pushing many more senior players.
What was wrong with his attitude?Comment
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Im hearing he has a great attitude.Comment
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Oh im just going off stuff said here on woof that he did have a bit of a big head upon joining, did find the step up a big one and probably expected to be given games or some such. Apologies if this is all wrong... like i said, it just sounded like first year blues that was never going to be a huge problem long term.Comment
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Oh im just going off stuff said here on woof that he did have a bit of a big head upon joining, did find the step up a big one and probably expected to be given games or some such. Apologies if this is all wrong... like i said, it just sounded like first year blues that was never going to be a huge problem long term.
My issue with Wallis is that he doesn't use the ball well at all -- even under no pressure he misses targets -- and I've seen him fumble too much for my liking.
Not writing him off, but I am far from convinced.W00F!Comment
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19 years old, plenty of time to come to terms with the pace of the game.FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.Comment
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If we have a game plan that protects the ball carrier, giving them more time and confidence then Wallis and all players will have to improve with disposal.It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.Comment
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Good thread! Tried a reply once, not sure what happened so here I am rewriting my original.
Re Libba Jnr’s kicking: I agree with HKB, he’s a good penetrating kick. Greystache’s point about how he showed ability in hitting up targets is also correct imo. Actually, one of the things I liked best about him is that he appears to like to kick the ball which I think is good as we have a few players who look to handball first as it is.
Re Wallis Jnr: I think he looked pretty good for a first year player. Should be well worth the draft pick.
Re Panos, like a few others, e.g, Big Fish, the banker & Sockeye, I think he needs to show continued form in the VFL for 2012 before he cracks a game. Not really a first choice pick for a key forward role at the moment.
Re needing midfielders to provide goals (HairyMidget et al) – spot on. This was one of the hallmarks of our recent good years. I hope it continues, we have the players to supply goals from the midfield - Coon Dog, Griff, the Professor, The King (that’s right The King has come to Footscray, King Tutt that is), the Captain, etc.
My forward line for round 1:
HF: Dalhaus, Jones, Murphy
FF: Giansiracusa, Lake, Roughead
My reasoning: Dalhaus, Jones & Gia pick themselves. Murphy (agree with GVGjr, etc) – while he was AA off the half back flank in 2011, I reckon he is needed more up forward because that’s where we’re a bit thin. There are a few others who can cover on the half back line. Roughead – it seems to me that the Sub rule means that rucks need to be switched on the ground. Either you go with just one or swap in the forward pocket (just like the old days!) I think we need to play two rucks, partly to give us more physical presence on field. Lake – I read this suggestion from one of the 2011 assistant coaches and I like it. Lake is a big, mobile unit, rough and tumble with a good pair of hands. He adds the X factor a forward line needs. And we all know he likes a goal! Markovic has shown he can play full back.
Omissions: J Grant (per Dancin’ Dougy) – play him off half back flank, effectively a swap with Murphy. Grant seemed to be down on confidence last year, a swap to the back line would be just the tonic. King Tutt – I see him more as a rover / wingman.
In the mix: Big Ed Barlow – more X factor with this bloke but can someone tell me if he is back on the rookie list or is he a senior list player? Other small forwards: Hooper, Moles, Djerrkura, Vespremi could all press for regular games as forwards. The first three need to work on kicking for goal though. Hargrave (no s) – proven tough nut, gut busting, all round marking and running player who could be used as a half forward in a side that wants to be known as tough and unrelenting.Officially on the Bus-wagonComment
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The problem with Barlow was he didn't fit a need.
What was he? KP? Midfield?He's a great size but just didn't fulfil any role.Comment
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