Match Committee - Round 2 vs Adelaide

[jeemak]

Re: Match Committe- Round 2 vs Adelaide

Did you see the press conference? Come on man, He's more pissed off about those misses than all of us put together. Back him to make it good for us.

I haven't seen the press conference. But my point still stands. If he doesn't take those opportunities now, or in the future he will only be a good average player.

It's good that he feels that he should have made them. Though, any AFL standard player would feel the way he does, if they were serious.

His effort in making the most of his opportunities weren't good today, they may not be good tomorrow, and they may not be good in a few weeks time. If he starts taking those opportunities he'll be an absolute gun though, and as long as he keeps improving I'll be happy.

[Ghost Dog]

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I haven't seen the press conference. But my point still stands. If he doesn't take those opportunities now, or in the future he will only be a good average player.

It's good that he feels that he should have made them. Though, any AFL standard player would feel the way he does, if they were serious.

His effort in making the most of his opportunities weren't good today, they may not be good tomorrow, and they may not be good in a few weeks time. If he starts taking those opportunities he'll be an absolute gun though, and as long as he keeps improving I'll be happy.

All these guys do is train day after day to succeed. to question if Liam is serious or not ...well, as the coach said, the kid is living with the label of being the next great hope for the club and puts himself under enormous pressure. That may be exactly WHY he missed those goals. The weight of expectation - who knows. People perform best when they are not too strung out. I'd hesitate to question if a player is serious after one game where they only failed at the last step. I'd prefer to encourage and cheer him on, seeing the 99% he did do right. Anyway, I'm sure Liam is very serious about wanting to kick goals and will improve. Very sure.

[Ozza]

Re: Match Committe- Round 2 vs Adelaide

Outs:

Howard injured....but I'm not sure he should be in the side right now anyway.
Addison (would prefer Veszpremi)
Roughead - You can't play a ruckman who shows no physicality.

In:
Griffen (hopefully back fit)
Vezspremi (to replace Addison).
Cordy - to replace Roughead.

Grant is a tough one. Its hard to get into the game as a sub....he looked lost though. Think Grant starting and Dickson as a sub may have been a better play.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Match Committe- Round 2 vs Adelaide

Outs:

Howard injured....but I'm not sure he should be in the side right now anyway.
Addison (would prefer Veszpremi)
Roughead - You can't play a ruckman who shows no physicality.

In:
Griffen (hopefully back fit)
Vezspremi (to replace Addison).
Cordy - to replace Roughead.

Grant is a tough one. Its hard to get into the game as a sub....he looked lost though. Think Grant starting and Dickson as a sub may have been a better play.

What do you think about skinner as a sub? Saw him in Ballarat. Chases like a man possessed.

[jeemak]

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All these guys do is train day after day to succeed. to question if Liam is serious or not ...well, as the coach said, the kid is living with the label of being the next great hope for the club and puts himself under enormous pressure. That may be exactly WHY he missed those goals. The weight of expectation - who knows. People perform best when they are not too strung out. I'd hesitate to question if a player is serious after one game where they only failed at the last step. I'd prefer to encourage and cheer him on, seeing the 99% he did do right. Anyway, I'm sure Liam is very serious about wanting to kick goals and will improve. Very sure.

GD, I wasn't questioning if Jones was serious. I was saying any AFL player if serious, would have been disappointed if he didn't make the shots he missed.

I'll encourage and cheer Jones on, but I'll also point out flaws that I see in his game. I'm not one to lambaste players, though in Jones' case yesterday he let himself and the team down with sloppy finishing. It's not the end of the world and I'm hopeful he'll improve, though I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging his finishing wasn't up to standard.

[Mofra]

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If he starts taking those opportunities he'll be an absolute gun though, and as long as he keeps improving I'll be happy.

I'd hope most supporters are in the same boat - I still think with more time in the F50 he'll develop the poise & experience to be able to take those opportunities - which is why I think switching a guy who's been developed as a forward his whole career, and has played forward all of the NAB Caup, to defence after one game is sheer lunacy.

[LostDoggy]

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My mother, a sweet old thing who knows very little about footy, came to the game on Sunday. In her words.... "That number 22 isn't very good is he and the blond mop is slow and keeps giving it to the other team.."

Wallis will hopefully get there but I'm now convinced Addison won't.

Out: Wallis, Addison, Howard (inj)
In: Cordy, Vezp, Skinner (who looked very good in the half he played in Geelong)

[Missing-Dog]

Re: Match Committe- Round 2 vs Adelaide

Howard out for Griff


Dont know why everybody is wanting Addison out as he didnt really do much wrong :s competes hard and rarely gets beaten, only by Hill who got 1 infront of goal due to having a better leap then Addison and 1 was a shocking decision to give him a free..

Think he was 1 of the better on the day.

Why we would need to play 3 ruckmen against Adelaide when we didnt play them against West Coast? Think Roughead and Minno will get the job done this week and Boydy may have a Solid game!

Out: Wallis, Howard

In: Griff, Dj

and start Grant on the pitch give him game time and his speed against teh crows will be needed.

Clay Smith straight in the middle with young Libba! Liking these 2 and need to play as many games as possible this year (unless they need a rest)

[BulldogBelle]

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A lot of talk about Jones missing those shots for goal on this thread, but there was something I saw in his game that was, in my opinion, a little more worrying and that was his lack of intensity in chasing opposition when he didn't have the ball. There were a couple of efforts throughout the game where he just went at the opposition at half pace.
Up until yesterday, I perceived Jones to be a tireless worker off the ball, and one that was always willing to chase down and put pressure on the opposition. I'm not suggesting that this one showing is indicative of a trend in his play, but I will keep an eye on this part of his game in coming weeks.
Interestingly, Mick Malthouse picked up on this on the 3AW call as well and made a point of it.

[robb]

Re: Match Committe- Round 2 vs Adelaide

In: Griff, DJ, Cordy Panos

Out: Howard, Dickson, Grant, Wallis

Why do we persist with Grant????

[Ozza]

Re: Match Committe- Round 2 vs Adelaide

What do you think about skinner as a sub? Saw him in Ballarat. Chases like a man possessed.

Its probably a bit hard on Skinner, to play him as a sub again after that was his only opportnity last year. I'd rather he was coming in to actually play once he has worked up a good run of form at Willy.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Match Committe- Round 2 vs Adelaide

OUT: Howard, Wallis,
IN: Cordy (need another tall forward/backman), Djerrkura(for his pace)

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: Match Committe- Round 2 vs Adelaide

FWIW McCartney strikes me as someone who will give his players a go, and therefore is unlikely (at this stage anyway) to make wholesale changes.

I believe you could well be right . Our lack of height was obvious yesterday with clearly a lack of marking power around the ground and up forward. To go with just one key forward in Jones is a fallacy. That is why I would like to see both Panos and Cordy included. Griffen is an automatic if fit to come back. Both DJ and Sherman would inject more pace into the side but I can quite understand BMC's reluctance to make too many changes.

[LostDoggy]

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Why are people suggesting DJ? He runs quick in circles? I dont understand.

Anyway..
In: Griff, Sherms
Out: Howard, Dickson

[Desipura]

Re: Match Committe- Round 2 vs Adelaide

Why are people suggesting DJ? He runs quick in circles? I dont understand.

Anyway..
In: Griff, Sherms
Out: Howard, Dickson

As opposed to Sherman? Are you serious?