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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

    Originally posted by paulv
    To me the problem with the Twin sons of Different Mothers : Higgins and Gia, is we can not afford to have them both in the forward half at the same time. The next problem then becomes, where the hell do you put the other one? Neither has pace, neither could tackle some one's grandmother, and they both regularly go walk about mentally during the game, or at the very least resolutely refuse to chase.

    Buggered if I know what the answer is there, but it sure ain't the status quo!!

    There is no point getting our knickers in a twist, and throwing the babies out with the dish water, but there needs to be changes made at season's end
    Anyone up for throwing Gia down back? A good leader to have down there.
    Just getting a bit bored with our forward line.
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44636

      Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
      Anyone up for throwing Gia down back? A good leader to have down there.
      Just getting a bit bored with our forward line.
      He just doesn't have the leg speed for a defenders position
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      • Hotdog60
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2009
        • 5905

        Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

        Maybe we make Gia the stay at home full forward were his chase may not be as critical.

        He'll either get a slower big full back he can lead on or he will drag one of their rebounder's deep.
        Don't piss off old people
        The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          He just doesn't have the leg speed for a defenders position
          Right fair comment. The coaching staff have some tough decisions to make. Pace is a real issue.
          If we can be outrun by Sydney and their small forwards so badly, younger teams like GWS will just play kick in the paddock to make it a foot race and run over the top of us.
          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44636

            Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
            Anyone up for throwing Gia down back? A good leader to have down there.
            Just getting a bit bored with our forward line.
            Who would you play him on? The first move by any opposition coach would be to put a Jetta, Rioli or Betts etc on him, which would amount to them getting a free rein.
            The best option for mine might be to say to him, every time the opposition sends an extra man into the back line, you go and block him, prevent his getting into any space, or doing any interference.
            If no spares, then go to the goal square and just sit. Force them to have at least one defender stuck down on the goal line at all times. Don't try to run about, except to lead into space, or crumb.
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            • Ghost Dog
              WOOF Member
              • May 2010
              • 9404

              Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

              Originally posted by paulv
              Who would you play him on? The first move by any opposition coach would be to put a Jetta, Rioli or Betts etc on him, which would amount to them getting a free rein.
              The best option for mine might be to say to him, every time the opposition sends an extra man into the back line, you go and block him, prevent his getting into any space, or doing any interference.
              If no spares, then go to the goal square and just sit. Force them to have at least one defender stuck down on the goal line at all times. Don't try to run about, except to lead into space, or crumb.
              Sounds like a good option Paul.
              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

                Gia, even at this pace, is still easily in the top 3 best mids we have at the club. Can win his own ball, can navigate traffic, impeccable disposal, can run all day. Lack of pace isn't such an issue playing on the edges of a pack. We could really use his quality ball use too.

                If he wasn't such a great goalsneak Gia would have been one of the great mids of our modern era. A travesty he's been wasted up forward for years.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44636

                  Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

                  Originally posted by Lantern
                  Gia, even at this pace, is still easily in the top 3 best mids we have at the club. Can win his own ball, can navigate traffic, impeccable disposal, can run all day. Lack of pace isn't such an issue playing on the edges of a pack. We could really use his quality ball use too.
                  Excellent points.
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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

                    Originally posted by Lantern
                    Gia, even at this pace, is still easily in the top 3 best mids we have at the club. Can win his own ball, can navigate traffic, impeccable disposal, can run all day. Lack of pace isn't such an issue playing on the edges of a pack. We could really use his quality ball use too.

                    If he wasn't such a great goalsneak Gia would have been one of the great mids of our modern era. A travesty he's been wasted up forward for years.
                    The best set shot in the team I reckon. Not sure of the above.
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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14950

                      Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

                      Originally posted by Lantern
                      Gia, even at this pace, is still easily in the top 3 best mids we have at the club. Can win his own ball, can navigate traffic, impeccable disposal, can run all day. Lack of pace isn't such an issue playing on the edges of a pack. We could really use his quality ball use too.

                      If he wasn't such a great goalsneak Gia would have been one of the great mids of our modern era. A travesty he's been wasted up forward for years.
                      Bingo - the problem is with so many one-paced mids we've used the most versatile players out of position. Higgins played inside mid prior to being drafted too IIRC.
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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Bingo - the problem is with so many one-paced mids we've used the most versatile players out of position. Higgins played inside mid prior to being drafted too IIRC.
                        Minson was mostly played out of position before this year, too.

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                        • Hotdog60
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5905

                          Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          Minson was mostly played out of position before this year, too.
                          Panos at the moment as well, although he hasn't taken his step in the big league yet.
                          Don't piss off old people
                          The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66707

                            Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

                            Originally posted by Hotdog60
                            Panos at the moment as well, although he hasn't taken his step in the big league yet.
                            There is a deliberate strategy with Panos in playing him in the backline to hone his defensive skills. I don't mind that and will only help his development in the future.
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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15307

                              Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              There is a deliberate strategy with Panos in playing him in the backline to hone his defensive skills. I don't mind that and will only help his development in the future.
                              I not sure we have long term plans for Panos.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: Brendan McCartney on the couch Monday

                                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                                The best set shot in the team I reckon. Not sure of the above.
                                Gia is consistently in top 2 or 3 in all time trials along with Boydy and Cross, and has been up there for a decade. Incredibly underrated tank.

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