Starting to get worried about our coach

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

I'm trying hard to find a point in what you've been posting. The closest I can come to one is you think that after Hawthorn won the flag in 2008 they have been a power and we have been poor.

The facts are Hawthorn have been little more than an also ran in recent years. 1 final win is a massive under achievement given the list and age demographic they have. The Bulldogs have won 2 finals in the same period of time and our list, due to a long list of short term list management decisions, poor recruiting 4-7 years ago, and the lost of 2 of our most promising players to expansion clubs, is completely undbalanced and in need of a total rebuild.

If you think Hawthorn have been a shining example over the past 4 years I am gobsmacked.

All I am trying to point out is that the members of successful clubs expect flags not finals wins. We as members must demand more from the club, we have to let them know that enough is enough, they need to be held accountable.

[1eyedog]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

I don't believe anyone wants the coach sacked at this early stage. The worrying things that most are concerned about are the selections each week and game plans.

Mofra hit the nail on the head. It's about building all the facets of the game plan before rolling out the game plan.

Contested ball is the first facet.

This thing will be built from the ground up and built properly, perhaps over the next couple of years before we see results. Hopefully he knows what he is doing.

I am sure Macca has sold this model to upper management. He won't get the sack.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Mofra hit the nail on the head. It's about building all the facets of the game plan before rolling out the game plan.

Contested ball is the first facet.

This thing will be built from the ground up and built properly, perhaps over the next couple of years before we see results. Hopefully he knows what he is doing.

I am sure Macca has sold this model to upper management. He won't get the sack.

Well making what 3 changes every week to a team wont do it either, as far as I am concerned if you are going to rebuild rest everyone and blood the young blokes throw em all in. Got nothing to lose now have we.

[1eyedog]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Well making what 3 changes every week to a team wont do it either, as far as I am concerned if you are going to rebuild rest everyone and blood the young blokes throw em all in. Got nothing to lose now have we.

Except a heap of broken young bodies

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

So whats is GCS and GWS do, oh thats right play alot of kids to build them....hmmmmmm

[1eyedog]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

So whats is GCS and GWS do, oh thats right play alot of kids to build them....hmmmmmm

That's right, they brought in a heap of oldies who will never see them play finals to protect the kids a bit...hmmmmmm!

[chef]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

So whats is GCS and GWS do, oh thats right play alot of kids to build them....hmmmmmm

Do you think our club would survive 3-4 seasons of getting flogged every week?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Do you think our club would survive 3-4 seasons of getting flogged every week?

ummm we have since what 1877.

[1eyedog]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Do you think our club would survive 3-4 seasons of getting flogged every week?

Ours wouldn't no but the francises would. GWS and GC need bodies around to protect their prime cattle with a rotate the kids policy. If we got flogged by 10 goals every week for the next 3 years we would be lucky to get 10,000 members. In this clime the AFL would be shipping us off to Tassie or Darwin as quick as a wink.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Ours wouldn't no but the francises would. GWS and GC need bodies around to protect their prime cattle with a rotate the kids policy. If we got flogged by 10 goals every week for the next 3 years we would be lucky to get 10,000 members. In this clime the AFL would be shipping us off to Tassie or Darwin as quick as a wink.

I like Tassie sounds nice, cornered membership great fishing, crayfish.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Ours wouldn't no but the francises would. GWS and GC need bodies around to protect their prime cattle with a rotate the kids policy. If we got flogged by 10 goals every week for the next 3 years we would be lucky to get 10,000 members. In this clime the AFL would be shipping us off to Tassie or Darwin as quick as a wink.

We have never and still don't have the luxury of spending too much time at the bottom. Membership and sponsorship would suffer too much. This club is crying out for a marquee player, a hero.

[chef]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

ummm we have since what 1877.

No we haven't.

[Dry Rot]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Matter of fact to make the point even better...Geelong won the flag in 07, 09 & 11 so they must be rebuilding now too then... see how we as members just sit back and go well we had a good three years, these teams have had good ten yers stints.

I ask what is the core of our problem, coaching?, recruiting? board? or the members not expecting much?

Good questions to ask about the state of our team now, so what are your answers?

And whatever the causes, how do you see the state of our list now and what are reasonable expectations of it?

[Dry Rot]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

We have never and still don't have the luxury of spending too much time at the bottom. Membership and sponsorship would suffer too much. This club is crying out for a marquee player, a hero.

True, but we doomed to stay at the bottom until 2015.

[Ozza]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Ok Savage. You've joined this forum a couple of days about and thrown a dozen posts around about how we should sack everyone, how the board, the coaches, the recruiters, and the players are no good. The supporters don't expect enough.

So we get it that you've cracked the sh1ts and decided to join a forum to vent. But what is the next sentence? What is the solution? Do you think everyone at the club - and everyone supporting the club isn't craving a premiership?

Cracking the sh1ts and telling everyone that they are rubbish doesn't do a hell of a lot does it?

And burning anyone and everyone that has been at the club now, and over the last decade puts us a mile further back than we already are - and possibly does irreperable damage to the club. So I'd suggest getting a grip.