Starting to get worried about our coach

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Very good win.

I know the Brisbane loss was awful. We should have won on Saturday too. But there are no huge outs that tell us we can't reproduce what we brought to the table on that day.

[Ghost Dog]

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Quite a few Geelong players are of the same view and struggled to see how MaCartney would make the transition as they didn't think he would be suited to the top job.

Which Geelong players and when?

[Ghost Dog]

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So we are happy with 1 good performance for the season?

I'm a long way from saying "sack the coach" but I've got real concerns and it staggers me that all we hear from him is contested ball. Sounds like a broken record and I fear the players will get the same treatment.

What amazes me is no criticism from the media. I actually heard Boyd's kicking heavily criticised for the first time on radio last week so perhaps we are losing our media darlings tag

I think it's worse than that. Melbourne are in the news all the time, even when they are losing. We are seen as being irrelevant and so nobody really cares. I agree that the time has come to really question some of the puzzling decisions the coach is making.
Also think he has done some things in his first year that warrant merit.
1. Dragging Grant into the gym
2. Move forward for Tom Williams
3. Getting scoring opportunities

Problems
1. Bizarre sub choices
2. Match ups that even a layman like myself can see the folly of ( Betts on Muprhy )
3. While I love Clay Smith's contested ball, his foot is frightening. Hope we don't come to regret that pick.
4. Some key leaders ( Griffen, Gia ) seem to have dropped off. Have they lost faith?

No, not happy with one good performance but I can't see why that can't be reproduced. We have to make a contest. People won't pay to see a team they know is going to capitulate.

My guess is we need a Gary Ayers or Dean Laidley to assist? Someone who has a good game day record and understanding of strategy. Bmac seems like a great development person but perhaps a little slow at times to adapt to different coaching conditions.

[AndrewP6]

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I know the Brisbane loss was awful. We should have won on Saturday too. But there are no huge outs that tell us we can't reproduce what we brought to the table on that day.

The last month or so is what tells me just that.

[Ghost Dog]

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The last month or so is what tells me just that.

You seem pretty down at the moment Andrew. Hope you are ok otherwise.
I agree, where we are at is not great. The game day lack of response to obvious mis-matches is the biggest worry. But I don't think it's quite as bad many on here paint the picture. A month is not a long time in footy, and but for three set shots, we would be singing a different tune.

[LostDoggy]

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I think it's worse than that. Melbourne are in the news all the time, even when they are losing. We are seen as being irrelevant and so nobody really cares. I agree that the time has come to really question some of the puzzling decisions the coach is making.
Also think he has done some things in his first year that warrant merit.
1. Dragging Grant into the gym
2. Move forward for Tom Williams
3. Getting scoring opportunities

Problems
1. Bizarre sub choices
2. Match ups that even a layman like myself can see the folly of ( Betts on Muprhy )
3. While I love Clay Smith's contested ball, his foot is frightening. Hope we don't come to regret that pick.
4. Some key leaders ( Griffen, Gia ) seem to have dropped off. Have they lost faith?

No, not happy with one good performance but I can't see why that can't be reproduced. We have to make a contest. People won't pay to see a team they know is going to capitulate.

My guess is we need a Gary Ayers or Dean Laidley to assist? Someone who has a good game day record and understanding of strategy. Bmac seems like a great development person but perhaps a little slow at times to adapt to different coaching conditions.

Developmentally he's doing beautifully - Grant, Williams, Higgins, Wallis, Howard (aware many disagree on this one) all seem to have leaped ahead under bmac.

Game day he needs support. Can we afford Roos?

[The Pie Man]

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How did you feel we went about it at the North Game?
I know you were probably there.

I think you need to put the North win in perspective. I recall hearing that loss and the belting they copped from Hawthorn are their two most disappointing performances this season.

We won by 3 goals.

I don't say that to needlessly add to any negativity

[chef]

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He may be a great assistant, I think that's beyond dispute but to my eye he is clearly out of his depth as a senior coach. Last night he was sucker punched and outcoached by Brett Ratten coaching what was already an ordinary Carlton team even before it lost half a dozen of it's best players.

Could have been a great number 2 for Leon maybe(I wanted Cameron to get the job).

But happy to give him the benefit of the doubt until at least the end of next season, if we are still playing clueless footy by then then I will be worried.

[chef]

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How did you feel we went about it at the North Game?
I know you were probably there.

We absolutely smashed them yet only won by a couple of goals. I was worried then that we are to focused on winning the contested ball and not what to do with it once we have it.

[The Underdog]

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Developmentally he's doing beautifully - Grant, Williams, Higgins, Wallis, Howard (aware many disagree on this one) all seem to have leaped ahead under bmac.

Did you forget one of these ?

Grant has gone nowhere apart from the VFL and the gym, Williams has been injured and had 2 ok games forward, Higgins has certainly not been better than any other year and Howard has been ok a couple of times and frankly quite bad on other occasions. Not to mention Jones stagnating.

Frankly I'm sick of hearing about contested footy and what a great teacher McCartney is, especially when the former seems to be getting us nowhere and the latter doesn't seem to be especially evident. I'm more than willing to give him another pre-season to move this forward but if he (and the coaching squad) don't improve, we are going to be finishing below GC and GWS pretty soon.

[LostDoggy]

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We need to refer to McCartney by his real title. It's not coach it's 'Our taskmaster'. Just ask the cheersquad.

[Mofra]

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We absolutely smashed them yet only won by a couple of goals. I was worried then that we are to focused on winning the contested ball and not what to do with it once we have it.

Perhaps, just maybe, B-Mac has a plan that stretches beyond 1 year?

He has constantly said you build a club from the inside out - to me, he seems to be building a contested football culture before moving onto other problems. I wouldn't be surprised to see the list cut fairly heavily at the end of the year, and with a surprise or two thrown in for measure.

He's not without fault, but the way we start season 2013 will be the biggest clue.

[KT31]

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We need to refer to McCartney by his real title. It's not coach it's 'Our taskmaster'. Just ask the cheersquad.

To Coach or about B.Mac ?

[LostDoggy]

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To Coach or about B.Mac ?

It's a sign they have like the Rhode - our mastermind one.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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The only thing I'm not sure about is whether to call him Peter Hart or Royce Rhode

A change mid game would be nice, especially when we are getting touched up. Anything will do.