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  • anfo27
    WOOF Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2002

    Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

    Originally posted by Chops
    Its already been mentioned twice. You not only exaggerate but seem to be forgetful as well.
    What other post did i post today are you talking about?

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14624

      Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

      Originally posted by Savage
      I want value for my money.
      This roller coaster of emotions isn't value enough for your money?
      The curse is dead.

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      • FrediKanoute
        Coaching Staff
        • Aug 2007
        • 3832

        Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

        Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
        These comments are quite unhelpful in the scheme of things. I would rather support the judgement of Chris Grant and Simon Garlick who would have been the key football people involved in BMcC's appointment.
        Not to mention Tom Harley (ex Geelong skipper was a key part of the election committee)

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        • ReLoad
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2009
          • 1460

          Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

          Seriously, the guy is 2/3 of a season into his job. Cut him some slack, he has not even had the opportunity to clear half the crap from our list.

          If anyone is expecting results or improvement when we clearly had not bottomed out yet is delusional.

          What has not helped has been the line "refresh not rebuild" which has altered expectations.
          He needs at least another 12 months, and probably at least 2 drafts to see some positive results.

          Think about the list he has to play with right now? He has NOTHING that would even close to make us a better team, ergo, it is hardly his fault.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66775

            Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

            Originally posted by FrediKanoute
            Not to mention Tom Harley (ex Geelong skipper was a key part of the election committee)
            Whether it was Chris Grant or Harley etc, they can also be wrong.

            Sometimes people can be very good as an assistant but when they take the helm its a big step up.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Bulldog Joe
              Premiership Moderator
              • Jul 2009
              • 5577

              Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

              I do not believe the playing list is as bad as a few seem to think.

              I do not accept that we should be losing to the Carlton side that played on Saturday. It was a glorified VFL team.

              I do not accept that we are so poor that we should be on the end of the continuous drubbings that have become the norm.

              McCartney may believe that winning the contested ball is what matters, but I see no point in winning a contest if you hand it straight back to the opposition.

              I would have hoped that by this stage of the season we would have developed some method of regularly RETAINING possession and some semblance of an idea of how we are actually going to score.

              Have at this point only seen the 1st half of the Carlton game and did see some improvement in ball retention, but we did have a seriously undermanned opponent.

              There is no way McCartney can survive if we perform like this for the next 2 years.
              Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27655

                Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                Originally posted by Savage
                I cracked the shits a long time ago, about the time that Wallace left Smith on Wren.
                Who's Wren? Do you mean Robran?

                Regardless whether I joined a couple of days ago or twenty years ago, free speech is free speech, but thanks for the slap.
                And going around in circles gets old pretty quickly. You've made your point, now it's time to move on to a different one.

                Originally posted by Savage
                End of the day one flag since 1877, last GF in 1961. I want value for my money.

                It's one flag since 1925. If you want to backdate it to 1877 then you should include the 9 VFA premierships as well.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27655

                  Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                  Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                  I do not believe the playing list is as bad as a few seem to think. McCartney may believe that winning the contested ball is what matters, but I see no point in winning a contest if you hand it straight back to the opposition.
                  I agree and it's where most of my current frustration stems from. It's almost like the coach is deliberately not letting the team play to it's strengths. I can understand the emphasis on winning contests but that cant be the be all and end all. We need to get the ball into the hands of players who can carry/score as well.

                  I would have hoped that by this stage of the season we would have developed some method of regularly RETAINING possession and some semblance of an idea of how we are actually going to score.
                  I saw a fair bit of preseason training and while the emphasis was on winning contests there was an extra element added in. An outside runner would hang off the contest who would then carry the ball and kick it long to a tall who had made space. It seems like we've got stuck on winning constested ball and forgot all about the rest.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                    Originally posted by anfo27
                    What other post did i post today are you talking about?
                    Look it up yourself. Bad enough I read it once and wrote it up twice.

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                    • Desipura
                      WOOF Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4344

                      Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                      Originally posted by Savage
                      Again Flags

                      Hawthorn 1
                      Bulldogs 0

                      Finals dont count, flags do. It is the fact that the successful clubs expect wins and flags, the smaller clubs, like the Dogs just say well we tried hard...What I am saying is that we as supporters need to change our mind set and start to demand more not sit back and say "oh well we nearly got there"...Second best is no good anymore, nearly there does not rate.

                      I just want supporter to say enough is enough and put some heat back into the club, make them want it and let them know that we as a membership will no longer sit back and watch sub-standard performance from what are meant to be the elite players of their ilk.
                      What difference does it make if supporters say we will no longer accept mediocrity? Will it make us recruit better? E
                      If anything, it will ensure even more members will drop off, something we can I'll afford.

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                      • anfo27
                        WOOF Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2002

                        Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                        Originally posted by Chops
                        Look it up yourself. Bad enough I read it once and wrote it up twice.
                        You're the one making the comments so the least you could do is get it right as you have politely requested me to do.

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                        • KT31
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 5454

                          Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                          Originally posted by DragzLS1
                          I wouldnt ask the cheer squad anything they need to come up with a new chant that actually sounds good!

                          Bulldogs *clap clap clap*

                          seriously, is that all we have...

                          Lets give the coach time to build his list and see what happens.. If it was up to the cheersquad and fans the coach would get sacked every year we didnt make top 4, and Lake wouldve been traded out last year for having a shocking year.. God im glad we didnt :s

                          Think the coach will make some significant changes at the end of the year. Lets jsut wait and see
                          Exactly what happened to Rodney after he took us to a record number of Prelims's.
                          It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                          • Desipura
                            WOOF Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4344

                            Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                            Originally posted by Chops
                            Look it up yourself. Bad enough I read it once and wrote it up twice.
                            Obviously emotions are high on here at the moment (our ordinary performances to date playing a large part).
                            Can you not take it out on posters by criticizing them at any opportunity you can get?
                            We all have different opinions, some stronger than others (yes I know I am one of them), it does not mean we have to make personal swipes at people.
                            Your opinion, my opinion or anyone else's is no more important than all of the posters on here.

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                            • SonofScray
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 4236

                              Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                              Originally posted by Chops
                              Well written TD.
                              1 person a newbie has called for his head, so it's now anyone thats questioned his coaching.
                              I don't see the point in sacking the coach when the problems are far greater.
                              Need to stick with the coach. Agree. Although in the medium to short term it probably means some tough seasons ahead as supporters.
                              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                              • KT31
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 5454

                                Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                                Originally posted by Desipura
                                Obviously emotions are high on here at the moment (our ordinary performances to date playing a large part).
                                Can you not take it out on posters by criticizing them at any opportunity you can get?
                                We all have different opinions, some stronger than others (yes I know I am one of them), it does not mean we have to make personal swipes at people.
                                Your opinion, my opinion or anyone else's is no more important than all of the posters on here.
                                Now this is just opening up a kettle of fish.
                                It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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