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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15449

    #61
    Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
    Mantis you always like to have posters back up their statements but you are not doing that yourself.You have made a sweeping statement and Ghost Dog has asked you which players and I am joining him. Please name them.
    I won't be naming them.

    I would hope that I would have enough credibility around here to have you think that I'm not making this up... but please yourself.

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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      #62
      Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

      This thread just highlights everything that's wrong with social media.
      Sack the coach, sack the cheer squad sack this sack that!
      Honestly never heard such knee jerk rubbish!!
      This site is resembling Big Footy more and more each day!
      Point 1. The Geelong players and Bomber Thompson fully endorsed his appointment.
      James Hird also gave McCartney a glowing endorsement.
      Point 2. The list is on a downward spiral due to poor recruiting in the 23-27 age group.
      Peter Rohde had a better list of players than McCartney does.
      Might only get worse before it gets better( this board will be in full meltdown by then!)
      I'd be worried if we haven't improved in 2 years time with some decent draft picks and a balanced list.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #63
        Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

        Originally posted by anfo27
        I did read in the game day thread that 2 posters asked for macca to be sacked.
        You're known for exaggeration but after a quick look I saw one by a rookie poster who isn't a regular.
        Aren't you the same person that said we had more embarrassing losses last year?

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          #64
          Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Quite a few Geelong players are of the same view and struggled to see how MaCartney would make the transition as they didn't think he would be suited to the top job.
          Who? Pretty easy to make a sweeping statement on the net!
          Didn't utter a word in the first half of the season!

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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7374

            #65
            Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

            I don't want to sack the coach - but I do want to see us start scoring occasionally...and I don't means snaps over the shoulder by Dalhaus - I mean multi-phase ball movement resulting in a shot on goal.

            I get what you are saying RM - but goodness...our average losing margin in 2 goals worse than Port's and they have been under an absolute blow-torch with the SA papers calling for the head of Matty Primus. Shouldn't we be seeing some signs of improvement/progression by now?
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #66
              Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

              Saw a Bulldogs person tweet Robbo last night requesting that BMac be put under the blowtorch. Disappointing stuff and not what we expect from our members.

              I'm willing to give the coach more time to put his stamp on the list before calling for his head. Did we do a season prediction thread this year? Would be interesting to pull it out and see what we all thought would happen. I'm pretty sure I said 6 wins or thereabouts.

              The list balance is ordinary folks and last year there were definite signs of where we were heading. We are expecting too much of young players and some older players just can't do what they once could. For mine, that is is the reality and if anyone thinks Eade or Leigh Matthews or anybody else could extract more goals from our forward line then I think they need a reality check.

              We are TERRIBLE to watch no doubt, but this is not just the direct result of a guy who has been in charge for 3/4 of a season but moreso the result of bad recruiting, bad luck with recruiting and list inbalance masked by some success and a really good FF kicking goals from limited opportunites.

              This is all just my opinion and I share the pain but let's try and look at the wider picture.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #67
                Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                How long do we as supporters have to sit here and take the crap that is dished out every year. All we hear about is "oh we tried hard" or "we are developing". Im sorry but we have been developing since 1954.

                I for one have had enough of the rubbish that is dished out week after week, year after year. The clubs board, coaches and recruiters need to get fairdinkum and start to use their brains just a little more.

                I am sick of second rate, over the hill coaches or coaches that have no credentials at all. Malthouse is available, he started at the dogs lets get him to finish here on a bang with a flag or two, he knows how to build a list, he knows what to do to win a flag and he has actually played AFL football at the elite level.

                No more apathy from me, no more rebuilding rubbish it is time to deliver.

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                • anfo27
                  WOOF Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2002

                  #68
                  Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                  Originally posted by Chops
                  You're known for exaggeration but after a quick look I saw one by a rookie poster who isn't a regular.
                  Aren't you the same person that said we had more embarrassing losses last year?
                  Why are you asking a question you know the answer to & one I have already answered?

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #69
                    Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                    Originally posted by anfo27
                    Why are you asking a question you know the answer to & one I have already answered?
                    You've made 2 statements today that are straight out wrong.

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                    • The Pie Man
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2008
                      • 3497

                      #70
                      Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                      Originally posted by Hobdog
                      Saw a Bulldogs person tweet Robbo last night requesting that BMac be put under the blowtorch. Disappointing stuff and not what we expect from our members.
                      I did likewise about a month ago - for a variety of reasons.

                      I'm sick of us seeming irrelevant in the media - Sheahan even admitted there was an 'indifference' to us last week, and Macca seems to be getting a free ride because of it. We've earned far more heat than we've been put under this season, and a bit of what I'll call 'positive' pressure can be good for a group.

                      I don't feel bad for doing it (and it didn't have the desired effect anyway, we were left alone.....again......)
                      Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #71
                        Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                        Originally posted by The Pie Man
                        I did likewise about a month ago - for a variety of reasons.

                        I'm sick of us seeming irrelevant in the media - Sheahan even admitted there was an 'indifference' to us last week, and Macca seems to be getting a free ride because of it. We've earned far more heat than we've been put under this season, and a bit of what I'll call 'positive' pressure can be good for a group.

                        I don't feel bad for doing it (and it didn't have the desired effect anyway, we were left alone.....again......)
                        Understand where you're coming from but I guess I just worry about the situation becoming even worse for a rookie coach (although media scrutiny is part of the environment). I think the media have just accepted this year that we're not going to do well and so it's not really a surprise that needs to be highlighted.

                        The only thing I would like to see happen is a bit more media focus on why we cannot move the ball well (lack of speed and lack of foot skills) and why we can't score easily (bombs into inexperienced and or small forwards).

                        We all react differently to situations and act accordingly as a result.

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                        • Dancin' Douggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 2876

                          #72
                          Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                          I think the heat is on Melbourne because they've been accumulating top picks for years and seemed ready to surge. A lot of 'experts' had them top 8 this year.

                          I honestly think that the whole footy world, aside from some optimistically deluded bulldog supporters, saw this coming. We played in 3 prelim's and now we're on the slide. We've got a very unbalanced and weak list.

                          Melbourne have just been appalling for years.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #73
                            Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                            Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                            I think the heat is on Melbourne because they've been accumulating top picks for years and seemed ready to surge. A lot of 'experts' had them top 8 this year.

                            I honestly think that the whole footy world, aside from some optimistically deluded bulldog supporters, saw this coming. We played in 3 prelim's and now we're on the slide. We've got a very unbalanced and weak list.

                            Melbourne have just been appalling for years.
                            I think that's what I've been trying to say too!

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #74
                              Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                              Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                              I think the heat is on Melbourne because they've been accumulating top picks for years and seemed ready to surge. A lot of 'experts' had them top 8 this year.

                              I honestly think that the whole footy world, aside from some optimistically deluded bulldog supporters, saw this coming. We played in 3 prelim's and now we're on the slide. We've got a very unbalanced and weak list.

                              Melbourne have just been appalling for years.
                              So what is Hawthorns excuse then, dont believe they have had a slide period since 2008, they have been there for some time....Sorry dont buy that rubbish anymore, there is no place for apathy.

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                              • Dancin' Douggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 2876

                                #75
                                Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                                Originally posted by Savage
                                So what is Hawthorns excuse then, dont believe they have had a slide period since 2008, they have been there for some time....Sorry dont buy that rubbish anymore, there is no place for apathy.
                                Ahem? 2008 was only 4 years ago!?!

                                And I'm only trying to figure out why the Media isn't putting the blowtorch on us.

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