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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67701

    #286
    Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

    Don't how good these guys are on picking players but makes a good read:

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    1. Lachie Whitfield (GWS) – Dandenong Stingrays VIC

    A member of the AIS-AFL Academy for the past two years. He was an eye catcher in the Academy-Box Hill game earlier this year and has been regularly playing school footy this year. Skilful midfielder with exquisite skills. After the Draft Combine was widely regarded to be head and shoulders above the rest with the possible exception of Joe Daniher.

    2. Jimmy Toumpas (Gold Coast) – Woodville West Torrens SA

    A hard-running utility with excellent disposals on both sides of the body and with the physique that would allow him to compete immediately.

    3. Brodie Grundy (Melb) – Sturt SA

    A rapidly improving player from a basketball background and, at 200cm, widely regarded as the best ruck prospect in this year’s draft. Compared to a young Dean Cox.

    4. Oliver Wines (Melb) – Bendigo Pioneers VIC

    The hard-at-it midfielder from Echuca is regarded as one of the best inside midfielders in this year’s draft.

    5. Jono O’Rouke (WB) – Calder Cannons VIC

    Smart midfielder has had two years through the AIS-AFL Academy and is considered to be among the top on-ballers heading into this year’s draft.

    6. Lachlan Plowman (WB) – Calder Cannons VIC

    Is considered to be one of the better key position players heading into this year’s draft even though he missed the national carnival because of a serious elbow injury. Has been among the better players at the Calder Cannons this season and really lifted his profile at this year’s Draft Combine.

    7. Jackson Macrae (Port) – Oakleigh Chargers VIC

    Plays big in big games and is a ball magnet on his hot days. Utility player that can also kick a bag of goals after booting six against Tassie as well as scoring the match winning golden point for Oakleigh in the TAC Cup Grand Final where he was also awarded the medal for best on ground.

    8. Sam Mayes (Brisbane) – North Adelaide SA

    Despite a low profile national carnival performance, the All-Australian centre half forward has shown glimpses of his potential and has been compared to Collingwood’s Scott Pendlebury but more explosive on the run.

    9. Taylor Garner (Richmond) – Dandenong Stingrays VIC

    Named in the All-Australian team, Garner has super elite marking skills overhead and can win the contested ball.

    10. Joe Daniher (Essendon) (F/S) – Calder Cannons VIC

    The Daniher family is the gift that keeps on giving for Essendon. Joe Daniher was a father-son nomination for the Bombers and in bidding will cost them the 10th pick in this year’s draft. Has developed into one of the TAC Cup’s key forwards and has the attributes of becoming a dominant asset for the Bombers in future years.
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    • wimberga
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 851

      #287
      Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

      Personally, I haven't watched much TAC football but going from the profiles I have read and my opinion of what we need, I'd be extremely keen for us to take Garlett & Mayes. However am happy to go with best available with our picks as long as one of them is a skilled midfielder

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      • SlimPickens
        Coaching Staff
        • Aug 2010
        • 2929

        #288
        Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Don't how good these guys are on picking players but makes a good read:

        link

        1. Lachie Whitfield (GWS) – Dandenong Stingrays VIC

        A member of the AIS-AFL Academy for the past two years. He was an eye catcher in the Academy-Box Hill game earlier this year and has been regularly playing school footy this year. Skilful midfielder with exquisite skills. After the Draft Combine was widely regarded to be head and shoulders above the rest with the possible exception of Joe Daniher.

        2. Jimmy Toumpas (Gold Coast) – Woodville West Torrens SA

        A hard-running utility with excellent disposals on both sides of the body and with the physique that would allow him to compete immediately.

        3. Brodie Grundy (Melb) – Sturt SA

        A rapidly improving player from a basketball background and, at 200cm, widely regarded as the best ruck prospect in this year’s draft. Compared to a young Dean Cox.

        4. Oliver Wines (Melb) – Bendigo Pioneers VIC

        The hard-at-it midfielder from Echuca is regarded as one of the best inside midfielders in this year’s draft.

        5. Jono O’Rouke (WB) – Calder Cannons VIC

        Smart midfielder has had two years through the AIS-AFL Academy and is considered to be among the top on-ballers heading into this year’s draft.

        6. Lachlan Plowman (WB) – Calder Cannons VIC

        Is considered to be one of the better key position players heading into this year’s draft even though he missed the national carnival because of a serious elbow injury. Has been among the better players at the Calder Cannons this season and really lifted his profile at this year’s Draft Combine.

        7. Jackson Macrae (Port) – Oakleigh Chargers VIC

        Plays big in big games and is a ball magnet on his hot days. Utility player that can also kick a bag of goals after booting six against Tassie as well as scoring the match winning golden point for Oakleigh in the TAC Cup Grand Final where he was also awarded the medal for best on ground.

        8. Sam Mayes (Brisbane) – North Adelaide SA

        Despite a low profile national carnival performance, the All-Australian centre half forward has shown glimpses of his potential and has been compared to Collingwood’s Scott Pendlebury but more explosive on the run.

        9. Taylor Garner (Richmond) – Dandenong Stingrays VIC

        Named in the All-Australian team, Garner has super elite marking skills overhead and can win the contested ball.

        10. Joe Daniher (Essendon) (F/S) – Calder Cannons VIC

        The Daniher family is the gift that keeps on giving for Essendon. Joe Daniher was a father-son nomination for the Bombers and in bidding will cost them the 10th pick in this year’s draft. Has developed into one of the TAC Cup’s key forwards and has the attributes of becoming a dominant asset for the Bombers in future years.
        Really depends on who has what pick doesn't it?

        I'd be surprised if Grundy goes 3 to GWS after they skipped on Longer last year, although their needs are much the same. Assuming Melboure keep pick 4 will Wines suit as another tough inside Mid, maybe some more polish and foot speed would be the way to go for them.
        "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67701

          #289
          Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

          Originally posted by SlimPickens
          Really depends on who has what pick doesn't it?

          I'd be surprised if Grundy goes 3 to GWS after they skipped on Longer last year, although their needs are much the same. Assuming Melboure keep pick 4 will Wines suit as another tough inside Mid, maybe some more polish and foot speed would be the way to go for them.
          I would love Toumpas but I think GWS will pick him in the top three.
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          • LongWait
            WOOF Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 936

            #290
            Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

            Originally posted by bornadog
            I would love Toumpas but I think GWS will pick him in the top three.
            Toumpas appears to be the best player with a slim, outside chance of sliding to 5.

            Would you draft for needs or best available with 5 and 6 BAD? Or does a little of both come into it?

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67701

              #291
              Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

              Originally posted by LongWait
              Toumpas appears to be the best player with a slim, outside chance of sliding to 5.

              Would you draft for needs or best available with 5 and 6 BAD? Or does a little of both come into it?
              I know we have had this discussuion before (I mean on the forum between posters), I think we should go for the best available. We want the best players on our list.

              Your thoughts?
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              • DOG GOD
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jul 2007
                • 6617

                #292
                Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                I think it will be...
                1. Whitfield
                2. Toumpas
                3. Grundy
                4. Melbourne - orourke or Mayes.
                I will never see #16 the same!!

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                • SlimPickens
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2929

                  #293
                  Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  I would love Toumpas but I think GWS will pick him in the top three.
                  Yep I'd say they will and most likely at 2, just not sure what they'll do with three. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if they took Grundy but for the life of me i can't work out their logic as Longer IMO was the better prospect last year.
                  "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                  • Greystache
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    #294
                    Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                    Originally posted by SlimPickens
                    Yep I'd say they will and most likely at 2, just not sure what they'll do with three. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if they took Grundy but for the life of me i can't work out their logic as Longer IMO was the better prospect last year.
                    They've lost Giles this year though, maybe they had confidence last year he'd be a long term option for them. I can't think of who their backup ruck even is
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67701

                      #295
                      Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      They've lost Giles this year though, maybe they had confidence last year he'd be a long term option for them. I can't think of who their backup ruck even is
                      They will be a seriously good team in a few years.
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                      • stefoid
                        Senior Player
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1846

                        #296
                        Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                        I dont think we can go wrong selecting oRourke and Garlett. Just two very good mids who have what our other mids lack - a bit of toe and kicking skills and the class to use them properly.

                        Pick 21 is the interesting one. I wouldnt be trading it for Dawes (please no). Maybe Anderson?

                        Stevens with 47 I think will happen.

                        That would be quite the haul of mids - oRourke, Garlett, Anderson, Stevens and Hunter.

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                        • SlimPickens
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2929

                          #297
                          Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                          Originally posted by Greystache
                          They've lost Giles this year though, maybe they had confidence last year he'd be a long term option for them. I can't think of who their backup ruck even is
                          Is that official? (Losing giles)
                          "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                          • Greystache
                            WOOF Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            #298
                            Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                            Originally posted by SlimPickens
                            Is that official? (Losing giles)
                            Not yet but looks a formality, GWS' offering was pretty lowball and Adelaide seem into him.
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                            • LongWait
                              WOOF Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 936

                              #299
                              Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              I know we have had this discussuion before (I mean on the forum between posters), I think we should go for the best available. We want the best players on our list.

                              Your thoughts?
                              I think that a bit of both is often part of the thinking - for example, if the highly rated ruckman Grundy was available at pick 5, would we select him above O'Rourke, Plowman, Macrae or whomever we have had in mind for that pick? I think we may not pick Grundy, or at the very least we would seriously think long and hard about it (preferebly before draft day ).

                              So... with really valuable picks, I'd lean towards best available but needs would be in the back of my mind and would be a factor in the decision.

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15483

                                #300
                                Re: 2012 Draft - Who do you like?

                                Originally posted by Greystache
                                They've lost Giles this year though, maybe they had confidence last year he'd be a long term option for them. I can't think of who their backup ruck even is
                                Well it was a combination of him and Brogan.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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