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[Remi Moses]

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I think that's actually a very well balanced rookie list personally, we have 3 kids developing, and 2 ready mades in case of injury who can step right in and play a role without being under developed and thrown in the deep end.

Could you imagine this board if we'd recruited Byrnes, Pedersen or Rodan?
Meltdown

[Bornadog]

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Could you imagine this board if we'd recruited Byrnes, Pedersen or Rodan?
Meltdown

We got rid of most of the dead wood and only have VEZ on shakey ground, now we have wasted another spot.

Gia, Cross, Murphy, Boyd are on their last legs as well, so we are a young team with a big future, hopefully we can be competitive in the next few years.

[LostDoggy]

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I know we have discussed this before , but as far as I am concerned I thought the coach was on the right track by getting rid of a bunch of players that were not good enough to play AFL and a few who had reached an age where their best years were behind them. The coach said he would not be chasing any stars or older players but rather 18 year olds or those in the system a couple of years. I know this is a PSD, but I can't agree to having a 29 year old on the rookie list.

The guy is 29 years old - complete waste of a rookie/Senior spot. We are in a rebuild mode, we don't need another 29 year old unproven (at AFL) player.

Surely if we wanted to go down this path we could have picked a 24/25 year old VFL player? Have a look at who Collingwood picked. = better than Goodes.

We've got two new teams in the competition, which results in even more chances for an 18-20 kid to get a spot. Those who've slipped through to where we picked up Goodes most likely slipped through for a reason. To rant and rave about "giving up a 200-game player" is being incredibly unrealistic about the quality of the younger candidates in the rookie system. As previous posters have pointed out, they're not all Boyd/Morris/Picken/Dahlhaus.

So rather than pick a player who may make it, may not, might be hard at it, might not, might be dedicated, might not — we've gone with an older player where we know what we're getting and we know the role he's going to provide for us.

That makes him instantly better than Mulligan, Everitt, Josh Hill, etc… in my view.

[Mofra]

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Do you really think I would say lets pick up Hudson. I was talking about Kyle Martin (No.13, rookie), Sam Dwyer (No.27, rookie), Adam Oxley (No.35, rookie), Jack Frost (No.41, rookie),

I would have any of those over a 29 year old Goodes

Given we were choosing between Goodes and Prismall (who we may still take as a coach), pure on-field punting was clearly off the table for this last pick - we want a part time coach for the last spot.

We have Austin on the rookie list - he is our KPD depth over Frost.
We signed Lower and traded for Young & Stevens, so the mids with a couple of years in the system are other spots we covered earlier.

We are clearly choosing one spot with a role in mind - on field & training mentor. None of Collingwood's picks actually meet that criteria with the exception of Hudson, and rucks are a spot we have reasonable depth in anyway.

[Bornadog]

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Given we were choosing between Goodes and Prismall (who we may still take as a coach), pure on-field punting was clearly off the table for this last pick - we want a part time coach for the last spot.

We have Austin on the rookie list - he is our KPD depth over Frost.
We signed Lower and traded for Young & Stevens, so the mids with a couple of years in the system are other spots we covered earlier.

We are clearly choosing one spot with a role in mind - on field & training mentor. None of Collingwood's picks actually meet that criteria with the exception of Hudson, and rucks are a spot we have reasonable depth in anyway.

My preference would have been to fill the role with another kid.

Anyway lets see how it pans out.

[F'scary]

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Could you imagine this board if we'd recruited Byrnes, Pedersen or Rodan?
Meltdown

FUKUSHIMA in fact!!!

Rehashing some of the points made that impressed me:

Adam's Brother is, after all, the last player selected on the extended list. That is not the pick that presents itself as the season changing decision for 2013 or the next 2 years.

He beat all comers in a fierce gladiatorial fight-off to win what turned into the last rookie spot and seemed genuinely chuffed to have got it.

The club has clearly set up another gladiatorial pre-season tournament amongst the rookies to see who can nab the last spot on the senior list. I like this. Can “The Bionic Man” Austin beat “The Dictator” Lin Jong-il or will “Adam’s Brother” show them that he is the Goodes?

The club now has a relatively young list and is setting up a reserves team for 2014. The rookie-ing of Goodes, the quintessential ‘best clubman’ seems to be part of a cogent plan to deal with these exigencies.

All in all, I hope he gets the last spot and gets a couple of games before “retiring” to lead the reserves for a few years. Jong’s time will come in 2014. Austin can always be elevated if there is the specific need for him.

[azabob]

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http://m.couriermail.com.au/sport/af...-1226534821485

I am interested to know what the people in the "lets draft" Gartlett camp think now? Should we still have picked him up?

[Bornadog]

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I am interested to know what the people in the "lets draft" Gartlett camp think now? Should we still have picked him up?

Don't believe everything you read in the paper or the internet

[jeemak]

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I am interested to know what the people in the "lets draft" Gartlett camp think now? Should we still have picked him up?

I'd be interested to know what a 4am bender entails in this instance.

Though, even staying out that late in his situation is buffoonery at its finest. Bender or no bender.

[F'scary]

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I'd be interested to know what a 4am bender entails in this instance.

Though, even staying out that late in his situation is buffoonery at its finest. Bender or no bender.

Agreed. Crazy move given his purported abilities and what is at stake career-wise.

[mighty_west]

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Agreed. Crazy move given his purported abilities and what is at stake career-wise.

Just staggering given all the media and the fact a kid so talented was passed from all clubs who would have been rated top 5 easily, to then get a chance to train with an AFL club but literally piss it all away.

You'd hope he would learn, one day.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

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I am interested to know what the people in the "lets draft" Gartlett camp think now? Should we still have picked him up?

He seems pretty immature and irresponsible is that what you mean?
My bible says he is not beyond redemption. Are you saying he won't make it and if you are not then which club do think he will grace?

[jeemak]

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He seems pretty immature and irresponsible is that what you mean?
My bible says he is not beyond redemption. Are you saying he won't make it and if you are not then which club do think he will grace?

Don't hide behind your bible mate, what do you say?

He's clearly immature, and from what I can deduce has very poor influences around him in WA. I think the best move on the limited information I have is to another city where he can pull his head in and knuckle down while out of his comfort zone. It seems that his recent issues have all happened in WA, and if he wants to make a play at the big league he needs to get away from them.

[G-Mo77]

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Don't hide behind your bible mate, what do you say?

He's clearly immature, and from what I can deduce has very poor influences around him in WA. I think the best move on the limited information I have is to another city where he can pull his head in and knuckle down while out of his comfort zone. It seems that his recent issues have all happened in WA, and if he wants to make a play at the big league he needs to get away from them.

On the other hand it maybe the best thing for him as Melbourne is not exactly a quiet place either. It's in his court now, if he wants to play he's got a huge mountain to climb. Running away from issues is not always the best thing to do. Good luck to him though, glad we didn't draft him this year but would be happy to be the club that gave him a second chance.

Oh and I guess this relates to our PSD. Ben Duscher left the Bendigo Gold and signed with Essendon's VFL team. I'm guessing a Rookie at Essendon next year.

Also wrapped to see Jack Frost get a shot at the big leagues. I've always been a fan and if it wasn't for his hip injury he may have got a spot with us. Pity it's with the filth though.