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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

    Originally posted by The Underdog
    They miss out on some poor leadership and take on the responsibility themselves?
    Exactly. If there is a discord between the senior guys and the young blokes then it's important to rid the disease

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66188

      Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

      Originally posted by jeemak
      There's definitely more to it than that. There are plenty of rumours flying around at present, with the prevailing message coming forth being we have a senior group of players who believe they know better than those employed to teach and guide them. None of these senior players mind you have been a part of a successful organisation throughout their careers, while those guiding them have.

      I won't be surprised if the club sacks McCartney. I will be disappointed, but not surprised.

      In the meantime I want to see the back of Minson and Cooney, particularly if the coach does get sacked. If we are going to sweep the place clean, we need them to go as well.

      With respect to the younger players, I think they'll move on pretty quickly, whilst I don't think any potential draftee will have an issue with coming to the Bulldogs either. Once this is done, that will be it.
      I don't believe this for one minute. I think there must be other issues.
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      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • HOSE B ROMERO
        Coaching Staff
        • Mar 2012
        • 2212

        Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

        Originally posted by Doc26
        Let's expose this Brandan character and then off with his head.

        Ha, Ha, love it Doc!

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        • westdog54
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6686

          Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

          This situation tells me that players prepared to work hard, put the team first, take on feedback, do what is asked of them and listen to instructions will be supported by the coach. There are 17 other clubs left for everyone else.

          It also tells me that PG had learned from history and won't allow players to undermine the coaching staff.

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          • Greystache
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Dec 2009
            • 9775

            Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

            Originally posted by comrade
            If the rumours are true, the younger blokes are probably thinking 'thank f*** these old prima donnas are leaving'.
            Correct. Plus they won't have to justify their place in the world before a senior player will give them the time of day. It must be especially galling when those players have done 2/3rds of F all in terms of successs themselves. Some of the senior players have massive opinions on their worth, yet we had to throw the captaincy to a bloke that didn't want it because the alternatives were so atrocious. Obviously that fact was lost of some of them.

            Cooney will go, Minson is a strong chance too, if we had of not resigned Boyd we'd be ready to start making a push. Chances are if he's playing reserves next season (and he should) he'll be kicking up a stink and be giving the media amnuition.

            If we want to see what a good leader of young men looks like you don't have to look any harder than Jordan Russell this season at Footscray, it would be a positive move to give him another go IMO.
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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66188

              Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

              Originally posted by Greystache
              Correct. Plus they won't have to justify their place in the world before a senior player will give them the time of day. It must be especially galling when those players have done 2/3rds of F all in terms of successs themselves. Some of the senior players have massive opinions on their worth, yet we had to throw the captaincy to a bloke that didn't want it because the alternatives were so atrocious. Obviously that fact was lost of some of them.

              Cooney will go, Minson is a strong chance too, if we had of not resigned Boyd we'd be ready to start making a push. Chances are if he's playing reserves next season (and he should) he'll be kicking up a stink and be giving the media amnuition.

              If we want to see what a good leader of young men looks like you don't have to look any harder than Jordan Russell this season at Footscray, it would be a positive move to give him another go IMO.
              We are heading down the same path as Melbourne. They thought they could change the club and look where they have been for the last 10 years. Lots of early draft picks, no senior players and crap coach. That is exactly where we are headed.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • F'scary
                WOOF Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 4089

                Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                Originally posted by bornadog
                We are heading down the same path as Melbourne. They thought they could change the club and look where they have been for the last 10 years. Lots of early draft picks, no senior players and crap coach. That is exactly where we are headed.
                You forgot their crap supporters. The missing ingredient that refutes your argument.
                Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                • The Bulldogs Bite
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 11122

                  Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  We are heading down the same path as Melbourne. They thought they could change the club and look where they have been for the last 10 years. Lots of early draft picks, no senior players and crap coach. That is exactly where we are headed.
                  No, Melbourne are where they are because they drafted crap, recruited crap, hired dud coaches and couldn't develop players.
                  W00F!

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66188

                    Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                    Originally posted by F'scary
                    You forgot their crap supporters. The missing ingredient that refutes your argument.
                    That is true.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                      surprised the Internet hasn't broken down from WOOF activity. I can only imagine the other site.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        surprised the Internet hasn't broken down from WOOF activity. I can only imagine the other site.
                        Was trying to find the thread about WOOF not being as active now days and the possibility of it being shut down if it didn't pick up.

                        Griffen has single handily saved WOOF!

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                          Originally posted by Jaytee
                          Was trying to find the thread about WOOF not being as active now days and the possibility of it being shut down if it didn't pick up.

                          Griffen has single handily saved WOOF!
                          Taking a bullet for the mods. It all makes sense now.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66188

                            Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                            No, Melbourne are where they are because they drafted crap, recruited crap, hired dud coaches and couldn't develop players.
                            True, but same end result - bottom club for years to come.
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27654

                              Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Taking a bullet for the mods. It all makes sense now.
                              WOOF seized control of the club while PG was overseas. It wasn't hard. Simon Garlick had been left behind to look after things and accidentally locked himself in a cupboard.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • Sedat
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 11147

                                Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                We are heading down the same path as Melbourne. They thought they could change the club and look where they have been for the last 10 years. Lots of early draft picks, no senior players and crap coach. That is exactly where we are headed.
                                You are underestimating the talent and impact of our U-22's - 7 of these finished top 13 in the B&F. Melbourne has never had such a talented core of youth leading the way at their club.
                                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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