Pack your bags McCartney...

[LostDoggy]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

While I agree that talk of a contract extension is premature, I think the real question we should be answering is more around the opening post where Cowshed calls for Macca to be sacked and if there is still any support by the forum members for this?

Are there still any WOOF members saying that we should move him on?
I think there is some members still wanting this given that they are so much more active with their contributions after a loss than a win.

To me, McCartney has met his targets of developing the list, getting the defensive component right with the playing group and getting the players to be more competitive on the field by playing a good modern football style that can take the club forward.

If we compare this year so far to what was going on 12 months back I think the turnaround is massive. This time 12 months back I was wishing for the season to be over but now I can't wait until next week.

We have had a good 2nd half on the season and while 6 wins isn't a huge return it's around around par with the majority of WOOF members expectations at the start of the season.
The big difference of course is the manner in which we are playing and competing.

Macca has done a very good job of developing the younger group despite a number of injuries.

I'm looking a lot deeper than just the win/loss record and to be honest I like what I'm seeing.

Very well said. The silence of the knockers is deafening, but I'm happy to forgive and forget, just want everybody back on board and behind the club. Macca has unified a list that two years ago looked very fractured, and it's time for fans to unify behind them.

[Sedat]

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Very well said. The silence of the knockers is deafening, but I'm happy to forgive and forget, just want everybody back on board and behind the club. Macca has unified a list that two years ago looked very fractured, and it's time for fans to unify behind them.

Hard to be a knocker based on the way we have played and been coached in the last 5 weeks. I was very skeptical of BMac's match day abilities and his long term viability as a seionr coach up to and including the GWS game. But I am more than happy to eat humble pie if the last 5 weeks of performance continues.

Delighted to have been wrong about BMac.

[Ghost Dog]

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Don't forget, the Coach is learning too. I liked during the Gold coast game, he admitted he had a bad 5 minutes in the box. He's going to make mistakes and improve as the players do. Some of the criticism of his match day performance in the past may have been entirely warranted, at times.

Generally however, We are lucky to have this coach.

Why? He was at the 1997 Prelim ( I think, or one of the other narrow losses ) and he stated he had never seen supporters so upset, in tears. He seems to have such a strong connection with the identity of the club. That kind of commitment is reassuring to have. Perhaps it's just the way he expresses himself, but it's really encouraging. The players obviously love his style and have responded well.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

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One question..who amongst us now looks forward to watching the bulldogs play?

Credit to the coaching team. They said we would be significantly better in the second half of the season and they've been true to their word. Some who have been outspokenly critical of the coach previously are now noticeable in their silence.

and how many teams are now worried that they have to play us? Agree Lantern that Sydney's loss may have partly been because we knackered them. Collingwood should slip us a few grand. Well done Dogs and Bmac.

[Scorlibo]

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Why? He was at the 1997 Prelim ( I think, or one of the other narrow losses ) and he stated he had never seen supporters so upset, in tears. He seems to have such a strong connection with the identity of the club. That kind of commitment is reassuring to have. Perhaps it's just the way he expresses himself, but it's really encouraging. The players obviously love his style and have responded well.

When did this bit of info come out, GD? Would love a read if in article form.

[Go_Dogs]

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When did this bit of info come out, GD? Would love a read if in article form.

It was around the time of his appointment. Not sure where it was from exactly but remember reading the same thing.

[jeemak]

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Hard to be a knocker based on the way we have played and been coached in the last 5 weeks. I was very skeptical of BMac's match day abilities and his long term viability as a seionr coach up to and including the GWS game. But I am more than happy to eat humble pie if the last 5 weeks of performance continues.

Delighted to have been wrong about BMac.

It was perfectly reasonable to question the coach and his ability to affect a successful game plan five weeks ago. It's still reasonable to keep a close eye on how he develops the game plan further, and if we stagnate in this area question his ability to take another step forward.

It should be enough to keep an open mind either way at this stage, and be pleased with what's currently being produced by the players and the MC/coaching team on game day.

I see little value in extending BMac's contract at this point in time.

[Ghost Dog]

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When did this bit of info come out, GD? Would love a read if in article form.

IIRC it was a story he told in one of his first speeches for the club. I remember it well because a bunch extremely rude individuals kept talking above him in the background.

[AndrewP6]

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Are there still any WOOF members saying that we should move him on?
I think there is some members still wanting this given that they are so much more active with their contributions after a loss than a win.

If we compare this year so far to what was going on 12 months back I think the turnaround is massive. This time 12 months back I was wishing for the season to be over but now I can't wait until next week.

We have had a good 2nd half on the season and while 6 wins isn't a huge return it's around around par with the majority of WOOF members expectations at the start of the season.
The big difference of course is the manner in which we are playing and competing.

Macca has done a very good job of developing the younger group despite a number of injuries.

I'm looking a lot deeper than just the win/loss record and to be honest I like what I'm seeing.

I haven't said much on the issue lately, primarily because I'm not interested in being shot down here when I put forward an opinion that many disagree with (and yes, it does happen)...

Despite the overwhelmingly groundswell of support for this rebirth of the Bulldogs, I'm not clearing the September schedule just yet. Yes, it was great to get the win yesterday, and to be playing a better style of football than we have in quite a while. However some of our forward entry is still dreadful, and we nearly equalled Carlton's clanger count. They were out on their feet, and we ran over them. So, there's still a lot of work to do.

J.Grants turnaround is absolutely astounding, I had him written off. I'll be interested to see how he goes maintaining reasonable form for the last few games. Great to see him impacting games, but the question still has to be asked why it's taken so long for the penny to drop.

On McCartney, I haven't changed my view of him, and our recent form improvement only attests to the fact I believe he's a good development coach - our devdlopment has come up as its what he's best at. I'll put the humble pie in the oven if he can take us to the business end of the season and lead a charge.

[always right]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

I haven't said much on the issue lately, primarily because I'm not interested in being shot down here when I put forward an opinion that many disagree with (and yes, it does happen)...

Despite the overwhelmingly groundswell of support for this rebirth of the Bulldogs, I'm not clearing the September schedule just yet. Yes, it was great to get the win yesterday, and to be playing a better style of football than we have in quite a while. However some of our forward entry is still dreadful, and we nearly equalled Carlton's clanger count. They were out on their feet, and we ran over them. So, there's still a lot of work to do.

J.Grants turnaround is absolutely astounding, I had him written off. I'll be interested to see how he goes maintaining reasonable form for the last few games. Great to see him impacting games, but the question still has to be asked why it's taken so long for the penny to drop.

On McCartney, I haven't changed my view of him, and our recent form improvement only attests to the fact I believe he's a good development coach - our devdlopment has come up as its what he's best at. I'll put the humble pie in the oven if he can take us to the business end of the season and lead a charge.

Fair enough......but do you at least concede that they are playing for the coach?

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

I haven't said much on the issue lately, primarily because I'm not interested in being shot down here when I put forward an opinion that many disagree with (and yes, it does happen)...

Despite the overwhelmingly groundswell of support for this rebirth of the Bulldogs, I'm not clearing the September schedule just yet. Yes, it was great to get the win yesterday, and to be playing a better style of football than we have in quite a while. However some of our forward entry is still dreadful, and we nearly equalled Carlton's clanger count. They were out on their feet, and we ran over them. So, there's still a lot of work to do.

J.Grants turnaround is absolutely astounding, I had him written off. I'll be interested to see how he goes maintaining reasonable form for the last few games. Great to see him impacting games, but the question still has to be asked why it's taken so long for the penny to drop.

On McCartney, I haven't changed my view of him, and our recent form improvement only attests to the fact I believe he's a good development coach - our devdlopment has come up as its what he's best at. I'll put the humble pie in the oven if he can take us to the business end of the season and lead a charge.

It's excellent that people have a counter view. Otherwise it just turns into a love-in.
What makes you think he can't lead us once we are a fully developed club? His lack of experience? Or you are just saying "wait and see".

[Remi Moses]

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People saying they weren't playing for the coach were wrong.
Melbourne with Neeld and Port under Primus were prime examples of this.
My only hope is after we lose a game we don't get the boringly predictable posts on the Coach.
I still would like a senior experienced assistant, but we're not going to see that.
The issue is with teams is the "Buy in" and our players especially the senior players have "Bought in"
Big Big Tick for Brendan

[AndrewP6]

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It's excellent that people have a counter view. Otherwise it just turns into a love-in.
What makes you think he can't lead us once we are a fully developed club? His lack of experience? Or you are just saying "wait and see".

Bit of both. Some of the match day moves (or lack of) also.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Pack your bags McCartney...

Fair enough......but do you at least concede that they are playing for the coach?

Yeah I can.

[anfo27]

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Bit of both. Some of the match day moves (or lack of) also.

I don't get this bit. There has been a lot of this about the coaching panel. Winning games is not what is most important in a rebuild. We have inexperienced kids learning the caper & how can macca see what these kids are made of if he moves them every time a kid is getting beaten?

If we want these kids to get better then we have to be prepared for them to get beaten at times. Its not about losing a contest but how they respond to adversity.

Once we start climbing the ladder & are genuine top 6 team & moves are not being made, then we can question the coaching panel.