Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I was spewing while hearing Macca say those things about Jong vs Dangerfield. Patty was BOG, Jong must make way for those coming through Footscray.

The reporter(s) certainly were implying it was a crazy decision and that Jong wasn't up to it, but McCartney defended/somewhat praised him. Whilst Dangerfield didn't kick any goals, to suggest Jong did a good job is ludicrous. Dangerfield helped Adelaide win the game and ended up with 28 possessions.

[LostDoggy]

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Don't blame our supporters. They are the most loyal of any.

We have the worst family friendly and commercial friendly fixture of any AFL team going around, fixed at times that no one cares about. If the loading up our home game slots with 4:40pm Sunday starts is to be our future then we can kiss any growth of our membership base and financial support goodbye.

Regardless of our style of game or win/loss ratios, if we do not make the scheduling attractive for adults with dependant children and for potential financial backers we will become irrelevant before long. Throwing in the odd 1:10pm time slot on a Sunday and expecting a crowd rush is naive without looking at the bigger picture of the overall attractiveness of being a Bulldog supporter throughout the seasons.

Footscray / Western Bulldog supporters have seen through many years of hard times and have stuck true. What we haven't had to endure, and now with regularity, is fixturing where we find ourselves with the weekend all but over, as we prepare for the next work or school week.

Garlick, Gordon and co. must demand better from the AFL's fixturing if we are to remain a viable entity.




Austin is not on our primary list. He can't be selected unless we find an injured player who we're prepared to place on a long term injury list.

I don't disagree with you regarding some of our time slots I hate the 4 40 times but when you do get given a 1 10 time slit and no one turns up why would they then give us better times.
It does not matter what you say, when you have 28k members and you only get 17k people to a reasonable time slot it is poor.

[Scorlibo]

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The reporter(s) certainly were implying it was a crazy decision and that Jong wasn't up to it, but McCartney defended/somewhat praised him. Whilst Dangerfield didn't kick any goals, to suggest Jong did a good job is ludicrous. Dangerfield helped Adelaide win the game and ended up with 28 possessions.

Let's hope that internally there's no delusion.

[Remi Moses]

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I actually agree with McCartney to a point.
Dangerfield murders teams with his run and carry, not only his pace and the havoc he creates.
He also hits the scoreboard.

[Bornadog]

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I actually agree with McCartney to a point.
Dangerfield murders teams with his run and carry, not only his pace and the havoc he creates.
He also hits the scoreboard.

i thought Thompson was more damaging, particularly in the 2nd and 3rd

[LostDoggy]

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1. Our supporters are piss-weak. Betts kicked that goal and 80% of those in attendance suddenly had a train to catch. When our players see that, I wonder if it comes into their minds when weighing up contract offers from other clubs.
2. If the match comittee read Woof, next week we'd play the entire team in the twos.
3. We are poor at implementing a Plan B when Plan A goes to shit.

[Doc26]

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I don't disagree with you regarding some of our time slots I hate the 4 40 times but when you do get given a 1 10 time slit and no one turns up why would they then give us better times.
It does not matter what you say, when you have 28k members and you only get 17k people to a reasonable time slot it is poor.

Cause and effect. If you make the overall package unattractive then stronger alternatives will be sought like our transients electing to take up a Foxtel subscription or moving to another code or just finding other alternatives to enjoy the long weekend. The problem is less to do with 17k showing up today but with the fact that our base now only sits at 26,820 coupled with yet again goddam awful fixturing. The league and its Clubs have accepted our game be driven first and foremost by big media revenues with the sacrifice having to be made by the least supported / secure, unless of course you're one of the privileged expansion teams. I suspect it will be worse again next season unless we make some inroads into improving the overall attractiveness for supporters with families. For us as it stands, the fixturing, somewhat by stealth, is helping to drive our redundancy.

[josie]

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1. Our supporters are piss-weak. Betts kicked that goal and 80% of those in attendance suddenly had a train to catch. When our players see that, I wonder if it comes into their minds when weighing up contract offers from other clubs.
2. If the match comittee read Woof, next week we'd play the entire team in the twos.
3. We are poor at implementing a Plan B when Plan A goes to shit.

Agree with this. A boost of confidence (goodness knows how they will achieve this) !! And some player changes with X factor required.

[Ozza]

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1.10 Sunday is a problem.
4.40 Sunday is a problem
2.10 Saturday is a problem....

Is there any other time slots we can make excuses about? Because it's not like we had a strong attendance at the Saturday game. It's just a cop out. People just don't want to turn up until we are a top side again. They'll be the same people that ring up 3AW and say they've been a 'supporter for 25 years. And we should sack the coach, call the club footscray, and recruit Fevola'.

As bornascragger said - the moment Betts kicked that goal - all that was there from the pitiful dogs attendance had to 'beat the traffic'.

[G-Mo77]

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1.10 Sunday is a problem.
4.40 Sunday is a problem
2.10 Saturday is a problem....

Is there any other time slots we can make excuses about? Because it's not like we had a strong attendance at the Saturday game. It's just a cop out. People just don't want to turn up until we are a top side again. They'll be the same people that ring up 3AW and say they've been a 'supporter for 25 years. And we should sack the coach, call the club footscray, and recruit Fevola'.

As bornascragger said - the moment Betts kicked that goal - all that was there from the pitiful dogs attendance had to 'beat the traffic'.

7.40pm on Saturday is not a good one either.

What are we going to draw at the MCG in 2 weeks time? Yikes.

[Greystache]

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1. Our supporters are piss-weak. Betts kicked that goal and 80% of those in attendance suddenly had a train to catch. When our players see that, I wonder if it comes into their minds when weighing up contract offers from other clubs.
2. If the match comittee read Woof, next week we'd play the entire team in the twos.

God I find these types of posts boring.

Blah blah blah, you're all bad people, blah blah, you should all try to be like me, I'm a good person, blah blah. What does continually posting things like this add to discussion other than trying to convince yourself (or others) that you're morally superior to the masses?

[Eastdog]

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7.40pm on Saturday is not a good one either.

What are we going to draw at the MCG in 2 weeks time? Yikes.

Really our supporters should really try their best they can too make that match as that is our only MCG match of the year. You would think Saturday 7:40pm is quite a good time when you compare it too Sunday 4:40pm.

[LostDoggy]

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Some people may have gone away for the long weekend, but those who do turn up leaving early always shits me. I've heard all the excuses but they never apply when we're winning. There are exceptions — a couple behind me live in Woodend and always shoot off in the fourth, win or lose — but most of the time it's the mentality: “I'm not staying for this shit.”

Then when a player does the same we roast them.

[always right]

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God I find these types of posts boring.

Blah blah blah, you're all bad people, blah blah, you should all try to be like me, I'm a good person, blah blah. What does continually posting things like this add to discussion other than trying to convince yourself (or others) that you're morally superior to the masses?

And by posting this you have added exactly what to the discussion? If someone is as frustrated by the level of support as they are by the team's performance, they have every right to say so.

[always right]

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Let's hope that internally there's no delusion.

Serious question....who do you believe would have done a better job?