Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

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  • Maddog37
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3132

    Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

    We are losing by less than last year. We look better when we are good than last year. The frustration for me is the difference in effort from one quarter to the next within games.

    Is it just the youth factor? Injuries to key players?

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    • boydogs
      WOOF Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 5844

      Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

      Originally posted by Mofra
      PS: Nothing has changed my perception that we need to target a backline rebounder in this upcoming draft. In terms of effective rebounding, we have Murphy, Wood sometimes, then a bare cupboard.
      JJ & Darley?
      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

      Formerly gogriff

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      • FrediKanoute
        Coaching Staff
        • Aug 2007
        • 3826

        Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

        Originally posted by Wannaknowmore
        2. Membership at only 28k is pathetic. Where are the other 7k so called supporters. I am over it regarding our lack of membership. Fair enough if you cannot afford it but it will crap me of when these supporters come back when we are a better team.
        My son and I live overseas so we don't get to go to games....

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13235

          Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

          1 Blast it looks like I need more patience.

          2 The bye cannot come quick enough for some of the kids.

          3 The MC are weirding me out by not selecting another key back to help out Talia.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10142

            Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

            1. If Jones doesn't try then he is terrible, does not have the tricks to get away with having zero tank or effort; totally unable to make quick decisions with a live ball while we're at it.

            2. Jong does not have the football smarts to tag anyone who plays even remotely inside. Got sucked to the ball at several contests and allowed Dangerfield to just stroll away. He's hard as but so is Clay Smith, who is also good at other stuff and man COME BACK CLAY

            3. Our backline does not bat deep. Jones should not ever be part of that batting order either.
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • DISHLICKERS

              Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

              1. MC selections are very confusing.

              2. Macca sells time ( Wait and the end product will be something special, we are building resilience) Fact is we are stagnating at best.

              3. Club bought in on Maccas selling time. Why the rush to give him an extension is beyond me TBH. Staggering to think we would do that.
              And dont tell me its for stability please! His match day coaching is up in the air.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14946

                Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

                Originally posted by gogriff
                JJ & Darley?
                JJ has gone backwards, Darley doesn't look anywhere near it at this stage (ditto Fuller)
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • soupman
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5113

                  Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

                  Originally posted by DISHLICKERS
                  3. Club bought in on Maccas selling time. Why the rush to give him an extension is beyond me TBH. Staggering to think we would do that.
                  And dont tell me its for stability please! His match day coaching is up in the air.
                  I don't get the issue with the extension. Why are people questioning his match day coaching like it's the difference between whether we should keep him or not at this stage.

                  BMac was the best development coach going round, one who we brought in to develop a very good side, and one that on the evidence so far seems to be developing a good side. Matchday tactics are only a small part of that, and certainly not the key part.

                  Developing a side as thoroughly as we are trying to takes longer than a 3 year contract. If we don't extend his contract it is because he is the wrong guy to rebuild the club, and means that our identification and selection process all those years ago in picking him was wrong.

                  His match day coaching back then was clearly not a high priority, why would it be now?

                  Have faith, if it turns sour then shit happens. I'd rather it turn sour though through trying something big than by bailing on a plan halfway and mucking up the progress made thus far.

                  Think of his contract as originally a 5 year contract with a get out clause halfway through in case it just wasn't working. We have chosen not to use that get out clause, and back in the decision we made when we appointed him.
                  I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13235

                    Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

                    Originally posted by soupaman
                    I don't get the issue with the extension. Why are people questioning his match day coaching like it's the difference between whether we should keep him or not at this stage.

                    BMac was the best development coach going round, one who we brought in to develop a very good side, and one that on the evidence so far seems to be developing a good side. Matchday tactics are only a small part of that, and certainly not the key part.

                    Developing a side as thoroughly as we are trying to takes longer than a 3 year contract. If we don't extend his contract it is because he is the wrong guy to rebuild the club, and means that our identification and selection process all those years ago in picking him was wrong.

                    His match day coaching back then was clearly not a high priority, why would it be now?

                    Have faith, if it turns sour then shit happens. I'd rather it turn sour though through trying something big than by bailing on a plan halfway and mucking up the progress made thus far.

                    Think of his contract as originally a 5 year contract with a get out clause halfway through in case it just wasn't working. We have chosen not to use that get out clause, and back in the decision we made when we appointed him.
                    Agreed and that's what King, Grant, Monty et. al. are suppose to provide on match day. BMac paints the big picture and the assistants suggest what sized brushes he should use. I've never minded playing players outside their comfort zone when things aren't working (e.g. Carlisle for instance).
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

                      1. Our form seems to fluctuate with how big Will is coordinating with the mids. I'd suggest if he was playing as well as he did last year, we might have won a couple more games
                      2. Staggering how quickly we can lose control of the game and not be able to regain it for some time
                      3. Stringer played well in the last quarter. Maybe that had something to do with what he experienced playing in defence.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66700

                        Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

                        Originally posted by metal
                        1. Our form seems to fluctuate with how big Will is coordinating with the mids. I'd suggest if he was playing as well as he did last year, we might have won a couple more games
                        That is why taps to advantage is so important. However, Libba is being tagged this year and that is killing us.
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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13235

                          Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          That is why taps to advantage is so important. However, Libba is being tagged this year and that is killing us.
                          They can't tag everyone someone needs to step up.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

                            Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                            My son and I live overseas so we don't get to go to games....
                            Was never directed at people with legitimate reasons.

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                            • MrMahatma
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3964

                              Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

                              Originally posted by Wannaknowmore
                              Was never directed at people with legitimate reasons.
                              I live in Brisbane.

                              I'm sure many of the 7k couldn't make it for legitimate reasons.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 6 Edition

                                Originally posted by MrMahatma
                                I live in Brisbane.

                                I'm sure many of the 7k couldn't make it for legitimate reasons.
                                As I posted in another thread, our attendance trend is looking dangerous. 1990s dangerous. They can't all be living overseas/interstate. The expressions of concern are not about ripping into ‘lesser’ supporters but genuine concern about how we turn around the growing trend amongst our fan base to just not rock up.

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