Time to Upgrade Big Jack

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #61
    Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

    Williams is contributing a couple of goals a game. He's the first selection tall for us from what is available on our list.

    Of the others:

    Campbell has not been performing anywhere near what he did last year. Stays in the VFL until he shows something or we need to replace big will in the ruck.

    Big Jack has been good for a run of a few weeks after being a rookie for 3 years. Think he needs to stay VFL and monster it for another few weeks to convince me he could handle the AFL. If we elevate him and he gets 2 kicks and zero goals we will smash his confidence. I'm happy to leave him alone.

    Cordy, by his own admission, needs to make them stick. He achieves that goal and we suddenly have our prospect back. Don't know what the issue is but the coaches and he are clearly working on it. No interest on elevating him and watching him bring 30 forward entries to ground for zero marks and no goals. I'd just as soon stick wacky, waving, inflatable arm flaling tube man up forward to achieve that end.

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    • Greystache
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Dec 2009
      • 9775

      #62
      Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Why does Williams get a line crossed through his name?
      I can't speak for TBB, but for me he's not up it as a defender, and as a forward he needs probably 2 years playing there before he'll be able to play a key role (if at all). At his age by the time he finds his feet he'll be retiring.

      I think playing him is just a sort term gap filling exercise in what is a very important position.
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      • Missing Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8501

        #63
        Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

        Both Williams and Crameri are 2nd and 3rd talls, they need a big forward around them. Is Redpath the answer? I really don't think so. I don't think he has the smarts and he's not a very good contested mark. He should have been off the list two years ago IMO.

        I'd like to see us persist with a forward line of Jones, Williams and Crameri for a couple weeks.

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        • kruder
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2011
          • 3856

          #64
          Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

          Redpath isn't the answer he doesn't lead either and only an average mark. He is very similar package to Liam Jones IMO. One things for sure we don't need two of them in the side.

          When can we get a forward who actually wants/demands the footy!!!!

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66687

            #65
            Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

            About Bloody Time - Good luck Jack

            The powerful 23-year-old replaces Tory Dickson, who was placed on the long term injury list with a pectoral injury, and is at least a month away from competitive football.

            Defender Mark Austin becomes the club’s nominated rookie, and will therefore be eligible for senior selection for the remainder of the year.

            Last edited by Bornadog; 26-06-2014, 08:45 PM.
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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66687

              #66
              Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

              Coaches Office - Redpath

              http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/video/2014-06-25/coachs-office-jack-redpath-rd14
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              • SonofScray
                Coaching Staff
                • Apr 2008
                • 4234

                #67
                Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                I'm looking forward to seeing what he can offer at the senior level. I hope he can bring some movement inside 50 and a real aggressive intent to hit the conest in the air, win the footy and make defenders earn their touches.
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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #68
                  Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                  Jeez Ash. That ranga beard looks pretty itchy.
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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    #69
                    Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                    Originally posted by bulldogsman
                    Both Williams and Crameri are 2nd and 3rd talls, they need a big forward around them. Is Redpath the answer? I really don't think so. I don't think he has the smarts and he's not a very good contested mark. He should have been off the list two years ago IMO.

                    I'd like to see us persist with a forward line of Jones, Williams and Crameri for a couple weeks.
                    Can you cite some VFL games you've seen of him? I've not seen him play yet. I'd like to know more. He's been around for a while, but tonight's vids are the first really good look I've had.
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • BulldogBelle
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 5284

                      #70
                      Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                      Good luck to Jack. He may not be in our best 22, but if he's our best option as a Full Forward, then he shouldn't need to be. It's a bigger plus for our midfield than the forward line if he plays. A genuine big target coming at you from inside 50.....our outside mids should be happy as a pig in mud if he cracks a game

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                      • Dry Rot
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6444

                        #71
                        Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                        Has he been officially upgraded from rookie status?
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                        • BulldogBelle
                          WOOF Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 5284

                          #72
                          Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                          Yes, and named on an extended interchange bench

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                          • Eastdog
                            WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 18284

                            #73
                            Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                            Well done to Jack on being upgraded. Not expecting too much from his debut game but will be interesting to see how he goes. Hopefully in a few years time he'll be that key forward we have been crying out for.
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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66687

                              #74
                              Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                              Originally posted by Dry Rot
                              Has he been officially upgraded from rookie status?
                              see post #65
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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #75
                                Re: Time to Upgrade Big Jack

                                I feel for Jack, a lack of quality entry, an extra defender back and rain is making life hard for him. I'd hate for him to subbed for his own confidence, but our strategy seems to look at taller forwards as the subbee. Soon find out. Edit: Austin out, good to see Jack fight it out.
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