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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11851

    #16
    Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

    Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
    No doubt going by previous drafting history SD will pick someone no one will be expecting.
    Is there any Caleb Daniel types in the draft?
    Does anyone ever actually pick who we'll draft? I can't remember it not being a surprise going all the way back to the leg cannon known as Christian Howard
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • Go_Dogs
      Hall of Fame
      • Jan 2007
      • 10117

      #17
      Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

      Originally posted by hujsh
      Does anyone ever actually pick who we'll draft? I can't remember it not being a surprise going all the way back to the leg cannon known as Christian Howard
      There are a few WOOF draft watchers who've landed their man, but we must be one of the hardest clubs to read year on year.
      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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      • Cyberdoggie
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 2859

        #18
        Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

        Originally posted by Go_Dogs
        There are a few WOOF draft watchers who've landed their man, but we must be one of the hardest clubs to read year on year.
        Stringer I think was the most obvious one in his first round picks. Macrae could of been anyone, so many options were floated about, and when this skinny gangly kid got selected over Ollie Wines, and he was standing there next to an overweight Stringer, i'm sure there were plenty of doubters.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14883

          #19
          Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

          Jordan Gallucci wins plenty of contested ball and hunts it at the stoppages. He offers more than just an in-and-under type, however, with his breakaway speed and run often getting him into open space. He has shown an ability to kick goals – he booted five one week for the Eastern Ranges at TAC Cup level – and is a professional, steady character determined to do well. He was a co-captain of Vic Metro's division one winning team at the carnival
          He sounds like the type Dalrymple would love, although Sympkin does too and being injured does slide him down the order a little.
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14883

            #20
            Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

            Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
            Stringer I think was the most obvious one in his first round picks. Macrae could of been anyone, so many options were floated about, and when this skinny gangly kid got selected over Ollie Wines, and he was standing there next to an overweight Stringer, i'm sure there were plenty of doubters.
            The story is we were hesitant on Macrae too wondering if he'd fill out until we met his parents and saw his dad's physique.
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • Cyberdoggie
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 2859

              #21
              Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

              One constant SD looks at is if the player has shown improvement and has scope for further improvement.
              ie players that come from no where and then play good footy for their TAC team towards the end of the season.
              Think Bont

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              • chef
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 14588

                #22
                Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                Have heard SD values winning your own ball highest. He also likes the player to have an elite trait and will look past deficiencies in other areas.
                The curse is dead.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  #23
                  Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                  Being that some 'experts' have said Berry for us, this is Callum Twomey's take on him:

                  Tomorrow's heroes: Jarrod Berry, as tough as they come
                  Callum Twomey
                  October 28, 2016 6:48 AM

                  JARROD Berry felt he had a point to prove. After a season interrupted by injury issues, Berry hit this month's NAB AFL Draft Combine healthy and ready, and he didn't disappoint.

                  The value placed on combine performances differs from club to club, but there is no denying Berry didn't hurt his draft positioning with his display. The Vic Country draft hopeful was the best performed of the 80 players in attendance, winning the 3km time trial (9:46), being a joint winner of the beep test (level 15.1) and placing in the top 10 for the repeat sprints and agility tests.

                  It was a good end to a tough season for Berry, in which he entered with big expectations after a brilliant bottom-age season in 2015. Last year saw him claim All Australian honours as a member of Vic Country's championship-winning team and be named in the TAC Cup side of the year.

                  This season didn't feature as many highlights, but Berry is a professional, committed player who has weathered the injury setbacks and remains a highly rated choice.

                  Berry is as tough as they come. He isn't afraid of getting in harm's way to win the ball, and sometimes he could be accused of having too much courage. Late in the year he suffered a bruised kidney early in a game for North Ballarat but played another quarter with the injury, believing it to be just a bump. He spent a couple of days in hospital nursing the injury afterwards.

                  He matches that hardness with genuine athleticism. He proved that at the combine, and reminded people of his running capacity and competitiveness. His size makes for an interesting player, because at different stages throughout the year he was deployed across half-back, through the midfield and later in the year spent time for the Rebels closer to goal (including back-to-back three-goal performances). He averaged 17 disposals for the Rebels in eight games.

                  Berry's leadership is also an important part of his make-up. He captained the Rebels, Vic Country and the NAB AFL Academy this year, and was named the academy's Ben Mitchell medallist – an award voted on by his peers for who best displays the values of the academy.

                  Berry has had an unfortunate run with a range of injuries over the past two years, including shoulder, knee and kidney issues, so clubs will want to be confident in his durability to use an early selection on him.

                  When he's out there, a knock has been on his kicking. Recruiters have raised it with him and he's worked hard to lift his ball use, and he showed his improvement at the combine when he came equal third in the kicking test (he was also equal second in the clean hands test). And as much as his versatility is a good trait, it also means he hasn't settled into one position, so clubs are varied about where they see his best footy being played.

                  If Berry settles into a third tall defensive role, he could play in a similar manner to Sydney Swans backman Dane Rampe. Berry is about the same height as Rampe and has the same courage to fly back for the ball in the air and also provide some run out of the backline.

                  Berry started the year as one of the names floated by recruiters as being in the No.1 pick consideration. He's not there now, but seems likely to fit anywhere between 12-25, with plenty of interest from clubs in the mature prospect.

                  Character has become the buzzword in recruiting circles in recent years, and Berry has it in spades. He has been described by clubs as the 'best kid' in the pool, and that goes a long way. His tough and uncompromising style on the field will give him a good chance of fitting in at the next level.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #24
                    Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                    http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17897568/knightmare-first-2017-afl-phantom-draft

                    Another of the more respected draft tipsters has Berry landing with us. Here is his preliminary phantom draft released today, with pretty good bios.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44396

                      #25
                      Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                      He's a great prospect who tested well at the combine. Takes the game on and is a mixture of half back flanker or midfielder.
                      He wouldn't be out of place with our first selection. North Ballarat boy so has a nice link to our Ballarat initiative although he might have some competition from Cedric Cox.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        #26
                        Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                        Hard at it, great character and kicking issues. Sounds like a Bulldog pick to me!
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          #27
                          Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                          Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                          http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17897568/knightmare-first-2017-afl-phantom-draft

                          Another of the more respected draft tipsters has Berry landing with us. Here is his preliminary phantom draft released today, with pretty good bios.
                          Ben Long at 26! That's a big move from 3 months ago.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44396

                            #28
                            Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            Ben Long at 26! That's a big move from 3 months ago.
                            I would have thought that was a bit high for him but like many on here I'd like to get him to the club.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              #29
                              Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              I would have thought that was a bit high for him but like many on here I'd like to get him to the club.
                              He h a great bag of tricks doesn't he? My only concern is if we go Berry & Long, we are still 2 rucks & a KPD down on this year. So whether pick 50 is still 'best available' or we look to address a need. If we move Prudden for a KPP (say Richards) then that takes concern or fear about reaching with pick 50. If we get another rookie ruckman then things seem quite balanced.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • S Coast Simon
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 348

                                #30
                                Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                                Would like to get Richards i think he could be a handy swing man. On another note I wanted Macrae. The Bont and Collins the last few years I didn't pick Stringer though. Glad we did

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