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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44464

    #31
    Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

    Just listened to Cal Twoomey who had us down for Will Hayward and Cedric Cox at pick 18.
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      #32
      Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Just listened to Cal Twoomey who had us down for Will Hayward and Cedric Cox at pick 18.
      Are we thinking about a medium term replacement for Dicko & Crameri with Hayward? (If he ends up 188-189cm)
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27654

        #33
        Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Are we thinking about a medium term replacement for Dicko & Crameri with Hayward? (If he ends up 188-189cm)

        Just a forward who can kick straight would be good.

        Although we improved our kicking and goalkicking at exactly the right time of the season. That was almost the most obvious thing we improved in our finals matches compared to our H&A games, we lowered our eyes kicking into the forward 50 and hit targets instead of bombing long to opposition defenders and as a result our set shots from marks inside 50 were far easier to convert.

        Apart from our attack on the ball I think that's what threw West Coast the most in the EF. They set up and were expecting us to kick long into the forward line but we hold onto the ball, bought it through the middle at every opportunity and kicked it to moving forwards. They though we'd stop start, go sideways and then try and kick it long to the goal square after getting caught wide. To be fair that was our gameplan for large parts of a lot of games.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

          Cal Twomey and Michael Ablett conducted a top 30 mock draft on the AFL podcast yesterday. Intersting listening with both parties pretty well connected to what clubs are thinking. From our first pick onwards, they went for:

          19 - Bulldogs; Todd Marshall
          20 - Sydney; Jordan Gallucci
          21 - Essendon; Sam Powell Pepper
          22 - Brisbane; Daniel Venables
          23 - Brisbane; Brennan Cox
          24 - St Kilda; Shai Bolton
          25 - Geelong; Cedric Cox
          26 - Carlton; Patrick Kerr
          27 - GWS; Isaac Cunningham (Bulldogs bid matched)
          28 - Bulldogs; Jordan Ridley
          29 - Richmond; Koby Mutch (GWS don't match bid)
          30 - Collingwood; Sam Walker

          This would be close to an optimum realistic result in my opinion.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            #35
            Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

            Some have us taking Long at 50. They'd all need time and patience, but that'd be a draft result for the medium term future. Looking at our list, I'm happy enough to take some kids for an investment for the future.

            The question is then how do we acquire a ruck, be it pick 75 or the rookie draft?
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14893

              #36
              Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Are we thinking about a medium term replacement for Dicko & Crameri with Hayward? (If he ends up 188-189cm)
              I don't think we need to replace like for like in any position really, we tend to play best available (within reason) and adjust the gameplan as required.
              If Hayward is drafted by us and is best 22, he plays regardless of who he is replacing.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                #37
                Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                Originally posted by Mofra
                I don't think we need to replace like for like in any position really, we tend to play best available (within reason) and adjust the gameplan as required.
                If Hayward is drafted by us and is best 22, he plays regardless of who he is replacing.
                Was thinking along the lines of the list management and balance of it generally, and if we in that scenario are thinking we need someone to draft now and develop to cover them if they retired or significantly slowed in the years ahead. But yep, Bevo plays on form and not reputation.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • choconmientay
                  WOOF Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1312

                  #38
                  Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                  Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                  Cal Twomey and Michael Ablett conducted a top 30 mock draft on the AFL podcast yesterday. Intersting listening with both parties pretty well connected to what clubs are thinking. From our first pick onwards, they went for:

                  19 - Bulldogs; Todd Marshall
                  20 - Sydney; Jordan Gallucci
                  21 - Essendon; Sam Powell Pepper
                  22 - Brisbane; Daniel Venables
                  23 - Brisbane; Brennan Cox
                  24 - St Kilda; Shai Bolton
                  25 - Geelong; Cedric Cox
                  26 - Carlton; Patrick Kerr
                  27 - GWS; Isaac Cunningham (Bulldogs bid matched)
                  28 - Bulldogs; Jordan Ridley
                  29 - Richmond; Koby Mutch (GWS don't match bid)
                  30 - Collingwood; Sam Walker

                  This would be close to an optimum realistic result in my opinion.
                  Excellent insight. Here is the link to the audio (couldn't find the way to embed the audio into the post):


                  If you want to skip to our picks:
                  - Pick 19 is at 18:29s
                  - Pick 28 is at 28:35s
                  Last edited by choconmientay; 16-11-2016, 12:10 PM.
                  It always seems impossible until it's done. Nelson Mandela

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44464

                    #39
                    Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                    How would it be to land both Powell-Pepper and Venables?
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                    • The Doctor
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3702

                      #40
                      Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                      Landsberger also linking us with the usual suspects, Marshall, Hayward & Cox

                      I wonder if they are all just copying each other



                      Cal Twomey has linked us with Florent recently and some speculation English could slide to us.
                      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        #41
                        Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                        Originally posted by The Doctor
                        Landsberger also linking us with the usual suspects, Marshall, Hayward & Cox

                        I wonder if they are all just copying each other



                        Cal Twomey has linked us with Florent recently and some speculation English could slide to us.

                        No. They all copy WOOF.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          #42
                          Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                          Quayle's is traditionally on the Wednesday before the draft isn't it? (Tomorrow)
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14893

                            #43
                            Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            Quayle's is traditionally on the Wednesday before the draft isn't it? (Tomorrow)
                            Generally - she knows far less about draftee rankings than appearances suggest but she gets better rumours than almost anyone else.

                            Someone analysed the experts and amatuers over the past few years and found that Knightmare from BigFooty has a better record with correct selections than anyone else.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14592

                              #44
                              Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              Generally - she knows far less about draftee rankings than appearances suggest but she gets better rumours than almost anyone else.

                              Someone analysed the experts and amatuers over the past few years and found that Knightmare from BigFooty has a better record with correct selections than anyone else.
                              Hes great at interacting with posters too, happy to answer all questions

                              10k posts up, woohoo.
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15253

                                #45
                                Re: Phantom Draft & Expert Predictions on Dogs Pick

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                Generally - she knows far less about draftee rankings than appearances suggest but she gets better rumours than almost anyone else.

                                Someone analysed the experts and amatuers over the past few years and found that Knightmare from BigFooty has a better record with correct selections than anyone else.
                                I thought she only started doing phantom drafts over the last couple of years? She has always done HER top 30 in order, not a phantom draft as such.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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