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  • azabob
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    Originally posted by Bigdog
    I would love for us to land starcevich or Raynor. However I just can’t see starcivich leaving and I think Raynor will land at a big club (Essendon would have the cap and appeal if they have a reasonable year).

    Well if we think JUH is any danger of leaving we have to cut him off and take the bounty of high picks early rather than get reemed.

    I thought Gardner was in his final year in 2025. Didn’t he sign a 3 year deal in 2022?
    Bigdog some posters around these parts would have you believe their is a contract thread with all the players contract details.

    He extended his contract in early 2023 until the end of 2026.

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  • Bigdog
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    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    Every chance it 8 players or so. JOD needs to be upgraded so that?s an easy one. We could upgrade Bramble & McNeil too, but then we have the issue of having a near empty rookie list which isn?t ideal either. Maybe we trade in a couple of players. Pretty sure Baker needs to be promoted or delisted unless they extend the three year term limit next year which is being proposed. We might need/choose to leave open a spot for the MSD.

    It looks like being a fairly complicated year if some players can demand a new contract. Which I suspect is going to the case. A couple like Coff might get a one year extension, and we gave Gardy an extra season so he?s not to 2026.

    How we might want to make it bigger in numbers by keeping Keath is confusing. And to smooth things better across two years I think you can make a case to pay someone out this year and reduce the turnover next year to maybe 6-7. Mind you that number doesn?t include blokes wanting a trade out of the club either.

    History says as you say we aren?t a destination club, so it?ll be interesting to see what we do with our salary cap space and if we have another crack at XOH if he doesn?t sign on to stay there.

    Then have we learned from Dunkley & Smith to look at trading/allowing trades of contracted guys to maximise value?

    On the flip side, if the next year is primarily West & Cooney then Milesi and his team need to have a good couple of cracks at the draft too.

    Good thing we have Sam Power!

    I would love for us to land starcevich or Raynor. However I just can’t see starcivich leaving and I think Raynor will land at a big club (Essendon would have the cap and appeal if they have a reasonable year).

    Well if we think JUH is any danger of leaving we have to cut him off and take the bounty of high picks early rather than get reemed.

    I thought Gardner was in his final year in 2025. Didn’t he sign a 3 year deal in 2022?

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  • bulldogtragic
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    Originally posted by azabob
    Charlie Clarke delisted.
    Well Milesi and his team owe us one back now. So they’ll have picks next year.

    To be fair that Konstanty (17) & Cooper (27) both pushed out of Sydney from the same draft too. No guarantees in that range.

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  • lemmon
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    Originally posted by azabob
    Charlie Clarke delisted.
    Ruthless decision, feel for him. Hope he gets a go somewhere else.

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  • azabob
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    Charlie Clarke delisted.

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  • bulldogtragic
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    Originally posted by Bigdog
    Chances are next off season will be a big one. Really need to get this Draft right and start pick up some good Free agents.

    Chances are the following will retire:

    Libba
    Doc
    L.Jones
    JJ

    The following are on the chopping block without a big uptick in performance:

    Cleary
    Scott - Not a bad player but 30 odd now with concussion history doesn?t bode well for him.
    Baker

    The others in danger are:

    Coffield - Needs to get some consistency with the body. I hope he becomes a regular next year, but needs to build on this year.
    Gardiner - would rather keep. Good insurance policy.
    A.Jones - I like him, but the writing is on the wall if he doesn?t get played.
    Poulter - As above

    The sort of turnover we see next year will be a ireal test for the list management team. We don?t seem to have the advantages of picking up free agents or trading in proven footballers that other sides do.
    Every chance it 8 players or so. JOD needs to be upgraded so that?s an easy one. We could upgrade Bramble & McNeil too, but then we have the issue of having a near empty rookie list which isn?t ideal either. Maybe we trade in a couple of players. Pretty sure Baker needs to be promoted or delisted unless they extend the three year term limit next year which is being proposed. We might need/choose to leave open a spot for the MSD.

    It looks like being a fairly complicated year if some players can demand a new contract. Which I suspect is going to the case. A couple like Coff might get a one year extension, and we gave Gardy an extra season so he?s not to 2026.

    How we might want to make it bigger in numbers by keeping Keath is confusing. And to smooth things better across two years I think you can make a case to pay someone out this year and reduce the turnover next year to maybe 6-7. Mind you that number doesn?t include blokes wanting a trade out of the club either.

    History says as you say we aren?t a destination club, so it?ll be interesting to see what we do with our salary cap space and if we have another crack at XOH if he doesn?t sign on to stay there.

    Then have we learned from Dunkley & Smith to look at trading/allowing trades of contracted guys to maximise value?

    On the flip side, if the next year is primarily West & Cooney then Milesi and his team need to have a good couple of cracks at the draft too.

    Good thing we have Sam Power!

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  • Bigdog
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    Chances are next off season will be a big one. Really need to get this Draft right and start pick up some good Free agents.

    Chances are the following will retire:

    Libba
    Doc
    L.Jones
    JJ

    The following are on the chopping block without a big uptick in performance:

    Cleary
    Scott - Not a bad player but 30 odd now with concussion history doesn’t bode well for him.
    Baker

    The others in danger are:

    Coffield - Needs to get some consistency with the body. I hope he becomes a regular next year, but needs to build on this year.
    Gardiner - would rather keep. Good insurance policy.
    A.Jones - I like him, but the writing is on the wall if he doesn’t get played.
    Poulter - As above

    The sort of turnover we see next year will be a ireal test for the list management team. We don’t seem to have the advantages of picking up free agents or trading in proven footballers that other sides do.

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  • GVGjr
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    Originally posted by azabob
    Media reporting Garcia 3 years and JJ 1 year have signed on.
    Good news with Garcia. He's done well to get 3 years. We probably could have got him for 2 if we made the offer 6 weeks before the end of the season. I don't know the financials but I'm topping it's not a bad deal for the club and the player.

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  • azabob
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    Media reporting Garcia 3 years and JJ 1 year have signed on.

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  • bulldogtragic
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    2025 List Management Thread

    Going to be a big year, 2025 contract decisions. Might be a big turnover year, so perhaps this year might be lean to not o er cook things over two years:

    Top Liners:

    Adam Treloar
    Marcus Bontempelli
    Sam Darcy
    Ed Richards


    Oldies:

    Liam Jones
    Tom Liberatore
    Taylor Duryea
    JJ


    Fringe/Non Gun Players:

    Luke Cleary
    Arthur Jones
    Laitham Vandermeer
    Oskar Baker (Rookie)
    Anthony Scott
    James O?Donnell (Rookie)
    Caleb Poulter (Rookie)
    Nick Coffield
    Lachlan Smith


    Likely to still have a heap of salary cap even after re-signing our guns.
    Last edited by bulldogtragic; 21-11-2024, 10:27 PM.
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