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  • GVGjr
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    Originally posted by Bornadog

    Only when we bring in hasbeens. If we are going to bring in a decent player I want them at their peak and to give us a few years service. No matter what you say a player in their 30s can go down quickly and it is hit and miss.

    If we had a lack of experience like a Richmond, maybe then you bring in a player in their 30s to mentor the younger ones.
    Which has-beens have we brought in over recent years?
    I don't think Hill offers us as much others might but it seems a touch short sighted to rule out players mainly because of their age which is what you led with.
    A few years back you ran a line through Isaac Smith because of his age and the Cats got 70 games out of him averaging 21 possessions.
    He would have been handy for us over those 3 years as we were very much a contending team.

    It's certainly no good bringing in older players like Hill on big coin if the best you are likely to do is be knocking on the top 10.
    I 100% agree with you that we don't need to trade for Hill but his age is a very secondary consideration.

    Lets be realistic, we would all love to be a club that could attract players in their actual prime but it doesn't happen too much so at times we need to focus on a shorter horizon.

    The club believes it's capable of contending for a flag, with that in mind players who can add some value for 2 or 3 years should be considered.

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  • jazzadogs
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    Originally posted by Bornadog

    Only when we bring in hasbeens. If we are going to bring in a decent player I want them at their peak and to give us a few years service. No matter what you say a player in their 30s can go down quickly and it is hit and miss.

    If we had a lack of experience like a Richmond, maybe then you bring in a player in their 30s to mentor the younger ones.
    Alternatively if we think we might win a flag in the next two years, why not bring in a guy that we think can be in our best 22 for that year or two?

    I'm not so interested in age for recruits, but a) what have their performances at AFL level been in the past few years and b) what has their injury history been in the past few years?

    I was against Harmes recruitment because of his injury history. I wanted us to chase Isaac Smith when he was available. Brad Hill has been inconsistent but had some good games in a crap team this year, putting up the same numbers as he has since 2021, and has hardly missed a game since 2019. I think he'd be a decent target.

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  • Hotdog60
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    If Libba can run him down his well past his prime.

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  • Bornadog
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    Originally posted by Stevo

    Players ages are very important with you aren't they?
    Only when we bring in hasbeens. If we are going to bring in a decent player I want them at their peak and to give us a few years service. No matter what you say a player in their 30s can go down quickly and it is hit and miss.

    If we had a lack of experience like a Richmond, maybe then you bring in a player in their 30s to mentor the younger ones.

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  • Stevo
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    Originally posted by Bornadog

    No thanks. He will be 32 next year. I would rather give opportunities to our younger players like Dolan
    Players ages are very important with you aren't they?
    I don't think we need Hill but if I thought he could make a difference for us over the next 2 years I'd be all for it.

    My priorities would be small defender, key position player (forward/ruckman) and centre square midfielder.

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  • Mofra
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    Originally posted by jeemak
    What would it take to get Brad Hill out of St Kilda?

    He's contracted for two more years and I think he'd be extremely valuable across from Davidson given he's still learning. It also means we can play Williams in his most productive position behind the football, and chopping out where needed.

    St Kilda gets a salary dump to help with their rebuild, we get an experienced wing to fill a position of weakness for us for two years in waiting for others to come through.
    The last thing St Kilda need is a salary cap dump when they're overpaying and front loading what they have.

    Although if we got Hill in, maybe Davidson could teach him how to tackle. They're actually a bit similar this year, comparatively.

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  • Bornadog
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    Originally posted by jeemak
    What would it take to get Brad Hill out of St Kilda?

    He's contracted for two more years and I think he'd be extremely valuable across from Davidson given he's still learning. It also means we can play Williams in his most productive position behind the football, and chopping out where needed.

    St Kilda gets a salary dump to help with their rebuild, we get an experienced wing to fill a position of weakness for us for two years in waiting for others to come through.
    No thanks. He will be 32 next year. I would rather give opportunities to our younger players like Dolan

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  • Mitcha
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    Would have won a Gold medal for fumbling last night. Handy player if given time and space but wouldn't trust him with a contested footy in a tight final, thanks but no thanks.

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  • jeemak
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    What would it take to get Brad Hill out of St Kilda?

    He's contracted for two more years and I think he'd be extremely valuable across from Davidson given he's still learning. It also means we can play Williams in his most productive position behind the football, and chopping out where needed.

    St Kilda gets a salary dump to help with their rebuild, we get an experienced wing to fill a position of weakness for us for two years in waiting for others to come through.

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  • Mofra
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    It's very odd that Brodie Kemp hasn't re-signed with Carlton as yet. St Kilda chased him last trade period, he's OOC this year. The guy can play has done the job forward this year but he's a really good tall(ish) defender who would jump ahead of Coffield in the queue on our list.

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  • Warrnambulldog
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    Thanks for the replies everyone, definitely think we’re fine in the long term but hope we can capitalise in the short term while we probably have some guys on ‘unders’ of their market value. Theres probably a limit of guys you can have on around mill a year before it puts pressure on and I can see in a couple of years we’ll have guys in high demand

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  • Happy Days
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    Originally posted by jeemak
    Two words - Hurley money.
    I’d add in the Crameri Equity but I understand that functions more as a trade exception.

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  • jeemak
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    Two words - Hurley money.

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  • GVGjr
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    Originally posted by Warrnambulldog
    Does anyone hold concerns about how we’re going to manage to pay all our stars in the next couple of years.

    Bont, Richards, Freijah, Darcy, Naughton will all be big $ come 27’. Not to mention others rightly on good money, English, Weightman etc.

    it’d be pretty hard to justify keeping Jamarra next year if we’re trying to get a Bergman or Butters. I’m sure Sam Power has it under control, the great man
    It's a challenge for nearly every club so no I'm not that concerned. With an increasing salary cap I'd be more concerned with how the club might generate more income top hep keep the club profitable.
    As others have said, with Smith, Macrae and Daniel going I think it provides us a lot of flexibility in the next 2 too 3 years.

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  • Rusty12
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    Just get them all jobs at Mission Foods, it works down the highway.

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