Lachlan Hunter?

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Lachlan Hunter?

He played this weekend for Calder(named in the center), but didn't feature in the bests in the paper.

They won fairly easily, Hunter kicked 2 or 3 and The Age had him BOG

[Remi Moses]

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He's a Western Jet

[chef]

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He's a Western Jet

Probably why I couldn't find his name in the bests

Sorry Ledge my bad.

[Topdog]

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Double edge sword this whole father son business. - I don't like it.

Lets hope we the courage to let all future father son prospects go if we feel we are "over paying" for them.

We haven't felt that we are over paying for any yet.

[Greystache]

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I've cleaned this thread up, let's try to keep it on topic.

[FrediKanoute]

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Double edge sword this whole father son business. - I don't like it.

Lets hope we have the courage to let all future father son prospects go if we feel we are "over paying" for them.

I'm guessing this is a reference to young Wallis (correct me please if I am wrong).

If Wally was a 2nd round selection would you have been disappointed? Who else in his draft could we have taken?

Personally its too early to tell.

[azabob]

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I'm guessing this is a reference to young Wallis (correct me please if I am wrong).

If Wally was a 2nd round selection would you have been disappointed? Who else in his draft could we have taken?

Personally its too early to tell.

Not directly at Wallis, but over all. We have a few up coming prospects and if they don't fit the type of player we require, I hope we don't let sentiment in the way.

[Rocco Jones]

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Just on the F/S selections.

Cordy @ 14 in 2008
Looking at the next 10 or so taken after him, it's a pretty even split between those I would rather him over. The guy is as late bloomer type as it gets and he has had a strong pre-season and start to his VFL season. When you consider the premium on talls and safety of knowing what you're getting, I have the selection just on the positive side.

Wallis @ 22 in 2010
Pick 22 is pretty late for a 1st rounder! Other than Darling, the few few kids taken after Mitch haven't done much. Pretty line ball IMO. Victim of massive early expectations.

Liberatore @ 41 2010
Delighted with this one obviously.

Overall I don't think you can say too much about Cordy and Wallis yet but Libba puts the F/S trio in the positiive ledger IMO. A whole lot of wait and see of course.

[Bulldog Revolution]

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Just on the F/S selections.

Overall I don't think you can say too much about Cordy and Wallis yet but Libba puts the F/S trio in the positive ledger IMO. A whole lot of wait and see of course.

I think you can draw some substantial conclusions from it

Cordy is in his fourth year on the list, as a major long term 6 foot 6/7 ruck man/forward.
I'm hopeful he can make but he still has a lot of improving to do. Wallis is a second year midfielder who likewise has a lot of improving to do. I think it is utterly ridiculous that the AFL make clubs resort to this current bidding process.

I believe that first round picks should be excluded from being in play for father sons. IMO Wallis and Cordy are proof that it is making clubs pay a price that is just too high in response to Geelong getting a few really good ones cheaply.

[jeemak]

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I think you can draw some substantial conclusions from it

Cordy is in his fourth year on the list, as a major long term 6 foot 6/7 ruck man/forward.
I'm hopeful he can make but he still has a lot of improving to do. Wallis is a second year midfielder who likewise has a lot of improving to do. I think it is utterly ridiculous that the AFL make clubs resort to this current bidding process.

I believe that first round picks should be excluded from being in play for father sons. IMO Wallis and Cordy are proof that it is making clubs pay a price that is just too high in response to Geelong getting a few really good ones cheaply.

I'd be very surprised if we jumped at these players without knowing they'd be good additions to our list, and I'm fairly confident we've made good decsions in taking them. Wallis is in the second year of his career and has shown marginal improvement, Cordy in his fourth has shown moderate improvement from a long way back, with significant injury issues to hamper that improvement.

There seems to be a wave of expectation on our early draft picks that suggests they should be taking leaps and bounds in their first and second years. The reality of the AFL dictates that can't happen in most cases, and if you're a side that has been at the pointy end of the ladder for a number of years moving into a transition phase, there's going to be some players that haven't had the opportunity to prove themselves at senior level.

This year is a big one for all of our father son selections, and many of our draftees post 2006.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Lachlan Hunter?

Hunter was fairly good in round 1 against the dragons, unlucky not to be in the bests. He picked up about 28 possies (website says 25, but I'm sure I counted more), played in the midfield, half forward and wing. His foot skills were better then what I saw in last year's finals, but he still needs to polish up this area of his game. Looks fitter and a bit bigger compared to last year.

[Topdog]

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Wallis and Libba were same year though. If they were separate years Im not sure we'd have taken both with first round picks.

[Rocco Jones]

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Wallis and Libba were same year though. If they were separate years Im not sure we'd have taken both with first round picks.

According to my research, a club put in a bid to take Wallis with their 1st round pick and another to take Libba with their 2nd round pick. The way I understand it, we had the option of ignoring Wallis and taking Libba with our 2nd round pick.

BTW when saying Wallis went for a 1st round pick you also need to remember it was a compromised draft and the pick was at 22.

[Bulldog Revolution]

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I'd be very surprised if we jumped at these players without knowing they'd be good additions to our list, and I'm fairly confident we've made good decsions in taking them. Wallis is in the second year of his career and has shown marginal improvement, Cordy in his fourth has shown moderate improvement from a long way back, with significant injury issues to hamper that improvement.

I accept that we've made careful assessments, but I fundamentally believe that clubs should not be forced to give up first round picks for father sons, so I would tweak the current system.

Whichever way you look at it, Cordy was a speculative draft selection, a 6 foot 6 kid who had hardly played TAC cup in his final year

I do not believe clubs should be forced to choose between taking the son of a former great (i.e Wallis) and sacrificing a first round pick to do so.

I accept that bidding system has made it slightly fairer, but I cannot stomach the first round pick sacrifice.

[Go_Dogs]

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I accept that we've made careful assessments, but I fundamentally believe that clubs should not be forced to give up first round picks for father sons, so I would tweak the current system.

It comes back to the Selwood/Hawkins selection though. Even under your proposal Geelong would have snared both. Under the current system, only one. I think it's the fairest system, and club recruiters just need to focus on the merits, rather than the romance, of any F/S pick.

For example, Melbourne should have to pay a first rounder for Viney this year IMO, under your proposal they'd take him in the 2nd and have 2 first round picks (apologies if I'm incorrect and they didn't active their GWS compo pick) - that would leave them with potentially 3 top 10 players.