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  • stefoid
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2009
    • 1846

    Re: 2015 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
    I don't know how we'll fit a small forward into our team structure this year, given that interchange rules presumably meaning that mids will need to rotate forward more often.

    I can see a system of 4 (more or less) permanent forwards; Boyd (on occasion maybe Redpath), Stringer, Crameri, Dickson.

    Then a high half forward/midfield rotation (Dahlhaus, Hunter and Maclean/Daniel) and a midfield/deeper forward rotation (Bont, Wallis, Libba, Jong/Stevens/Picken).

    Don't know how all of this fits in with a semi-permanent small forward also in the mix.
    True, but we wouldnt be drafting him to play in 2016 or even expecting much in 2017 either. If he is good enough to demand a spot in the best 22 before then, it would be a nice problem to have.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      Re: 2015 Draft Watch

      Originally posted by stefoid
      True, but we wouldnt be drafting him to play in 2016 or even expecting much in 2017 either. If he is good enough to demand a spot in the best 22 before then, it would be a nice problem to have.
      Fair enough. In my opinion, a specialist small forward is just really low on our list of priorities. If Dal and JMac really rate a Rioli or an Ah Chee, though, I guess they would add an interesting element to our mix.

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      • kruder
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2011
        • 3869

        Re: 2015 Draft Watch

        Any chance RHYS MATHIESON is available at our first two picks? Reminds me of little of Heppell of Essendon, a player I really admire. I'm hoping we continue the theme of the natural footballers and he certainly fits the bill, Fiorni also looks alikely type at this pick both look to have AFL attributbes for mine. Any idea how they tested at the camp?

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        • dog town
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2007
          • 1914

          Re: 2015 Draft Watch

          I noticed Sam Landsberger tweet during the week that he thinks a club might use a top 20 pick on GWS academy kid Harry Himmelberg. Any chance it's us? Sam seems to have good mail with us normally.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44726

            Re: 2015 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by dog town
            I noticed Sam Landsberger tweet during the week that he thinks a club might use a top 20 pick on GWS academy kid Harry Himmelberg. Any chance it's us? Sam seems to have good mail with us normally.
            I'm not 100% sure what to make of him. He's a good size and mobile but I wonder how much better he could get.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27658

              Re: 2015 Draft Watch

              Originally posted by dog town
              I noticed Sam Landsberger tweet during the week that he thinks a club might use a top 20 pick on GWS academy kid Harry Himmelberg. Any chance it's us? Sam seems to have good mail with us normally.
              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I'm not 100% sure what to make of him. He's a good size and mobile but I wonder how much better he could get.

              With the reallocation of the draft order I thought our picks 20/21 had fallen down a few notches to 23/24 so we don't have a top 20ick.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44726

                Re: 2015 Draft Watch

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                With the reallocation of the draft order I thought our picks 20/21 had fallen down a few notches to 23/24 so we don't have a top 20ick.
                Most likely picks 24 and 25.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15335

                  Re: 2015 Draft Watch

                  For what it's worth in today's age Emma Quyale rates Himmleberg in her top 30 players for this draft.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: 2015 Draft Watch

                    Interesting that Quayle doesn't rate Weitering #1. First expert I've seen who goes for Hopper. Nearly all others go for the 1-Weitering then 2-Schache orthodoxy. EQ is not afraid to have an opinion.

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15335

                      Re: 2015 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                      Interesting that Quayle doesn't rate Weitering #1. First expert I've seen who goes for Hopper. Nearly all others go for the 1-Weitering then 2-Schache orthodoxy. EQ is not afraid to have an opinion.
                      I wonder if it's because Key position players are deemed more valuable? But I also was surprised of her choice. I'm not a close watcher but she had a few surprises in there.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • kruder
                        Coaching Staff
                        • May 2011
                        • 3869

                        Re: 2015 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                        Interesting that Quayle doesn't rate Weitering #1. First expert I've seen who goes for Hopper. Nearly all others go for the 1-Weitering then 2-Schache orthodoxy. EQ is not afraid to have an opinion.
                        Hopper looks to be an absolute beast I'm surprised that he hasn't got much attention. I'm guessing because he is an academy player and his fate is already determined. One things for sure Weitering Schache and Hopper look to be as good as any early prosepects in recent drafts.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          Re: 2015 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by kruder
                          Hopper looks to be an absolute beast I'm surprised that he hasn't got much attention. I'm guessing because he is an academy player and his fate is already determined. One things for sure Weitering Schache and Hopper look to be as good as any early prosepects in recent drafts.
                          His fate isn't really determined though. The way I understand it, if Carlton bid on him at 1, Sydney have to match it (less their discount), either way he'll be the #1 pick. It is true to say that the Academy Picks have been given less scrutiny than those in the 'open market' as their likely home seems more decided.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44726

                            Re: 2015 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                            His fate isn't really determined though. The way I understand it, if Carlton bid on him at 1, Sydney have to match it (less their discount), either way he'll be the #1 pick. It is true to say that the Academy Picks have been given less scrutiny than those in the 'open market' as their likely home seems more decided.
                            This is the problem with this system. Even if Carlton did rate Hopper number one and bid for him it will be matched and then open up a whole story line in the media that Weitering was at best the default number one pick. What club would want that? It would be a huge distraction and follow Weitering for the rest of his career. As it stands, he will be a huge good news story for the Blues and they badly need that.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • boydogs
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 5844

                              Re: 2015 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              This is the problem with this system. Even if Carlton did rate Hopper number one and bid for him it will be matched and then open up a whole story line in the media that Weitering was at best the default number one pick. What club would want that? It would be a huge distraction and follow Weitering for the rest of his career. As it stands, he will be a huge good news story for the Blues and they badly need that.
                              You could say the same about Tom Boyd & the mini draft
                              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                              Formerly gogriff

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                              • always right
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 4189

                                Re: 2015 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                This is the problem with this system. Even if Carlton did rate Hopper number one and bid for him it will be matched and then open up a whole story line in the media that Weitering was at best the default number one pick. What club would want that? It would be a huge distraction and follow Weitering for the rest of his career. As it stands, he will be a huge good news story for the Blues and they badly need that.
                                So they get him at number 2. Nobody will care and it will still be a huge story for the club.
                                I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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