2015 Draft Watch

[Mofra]

Re: 2015 Draft Watch

I do like the sound of Fiorini, elite kick and can find the ball. Nobody seems to rate him much, 2nd or 3rd rounder.
Anyone know more about him? All the talk is he is quite outside

[GVGjr]

Re: 2015 Draft Watch

I do like the sound of Fiorini, elite kick and can find the ball. Nobody seems to rate him much, 2nd or 3rd rounder.
Anyone know more about him? All the talk is he is quite outside

He's a ripper. I have him going around our pick 30

Combine figures
186.7cm
76.2kg
5mtr 1.03 87% 10mtr 1.89 6% 20mtr 3.00 69%
Agility 8.49 58% Beep 13 - 9 Repeat Sprints 25.54 52%

He finished the season off strongly and gathers a lot of possessions and I think the knock on him might be that he is regarded as an outside player.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2015 Draft Watch

An updated Draft list

Paige

[KT31]

Re: 2015 Draft Watch

An updated Draft list

Paige

What is the go with the pick numbers being out ?

[azabob]

Re: 2015 Draft Watch

What is the go with the pick numbers being out ?

I'm confused by that also. Is it something to do with academy players?

[The Doctor]

Re: 2015 Draft Watch

14 Players Who will be gone by our pick

Weitering, Schache, Parish, Weiderman, Curnow, Francis, Mathieson, Milera, Burton, H.McKay, Ah Chee, Tucker, Collins, Balic


6 Players Likely to be Gone

B.McKay, Bonner, Oliver, Hibberd, Gresham, Clarke

This excludes any of the academy players like Mills, Hopper, Kennedy, Hipwood & Keays who will also be gone. So if we assume for a moment the 20 players listed above are gone by our 1st pick, what does that leave us?

[GVGjr]

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What is the go with the pick numbers being out ?

It's to do with the bidding for the academy players or father son selections. A club will bid say pick 6 for a player then the club who has him under the academy rules will counter with those late in the order picks they acquired and therefore move to pick 6 and get their player. All clubs after that move down the order after that.

If we use Brisbane as an example and they use some of their current picks 38, 39, 40, 41 and 42 to acquire an academy player by moving up the order it means our pick 51 could slide down by a few positions perhaps to 48.

I think in the example Paige provides she has us bidding on Josh Dunkley and Sydney matching that bid and sliding in between our picks.

The bottom line is the draft order will change dramatically on draft night. We will still have the first 2 picks of the 2nd round no matter what though but they could be 3 or 4 picks later.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2015 Draft Watch

14 Players Who will be gone by our pick

Weitering, Schache, Parish, Weiderman, Curnow, Francis, Mathieson, Milera, Burton, H.McKay, Ah Chee, Tucker, Collins, Balic


6 Players Likely to be Gone

B.McKay, Bonner, Oliver, Hibberd, Gresham, Clarke

This excludes any of the academy players like Mills, Hopper, Kennedy, Hipwood & Keays who will also be gone. So if we assume for a moment the 20 players listed above are gone by our 1st pick, what does that leave us?

Good list, it's probable that there will be a couple of the 6 players in the 'likely to be gone bucket' still available and the first 4 you have listed interest me the most but then we could add Brayden Fiorini, Aidyn Johnson, Josh Dunkley and if we believe the rumours Daniel Rioli to the mix.

[The Doctor]

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Good list, it's probable that there will be a couple of the 6 players in the 'likely to be gone bucket' still available and the first 4 you have listed interest me the most but then we could add Brayden Fiorini, Aidyn Johnson, Josh Dunkley and if we believe the rumours Daniel Rioli to the mix.

If Ben McKay is gone none of the other players you have mentioned address our KPD or ruck issues. With pick 11 we would certainly have got one. So the decision to trade down seems a high risk move unless the club feels very certain someone will slip through.

Lets assume again all 20 from 'Gone' lists are gone! I wonder then would we;

A) go for best available at 20 & 21 regardless of player type and look for key position types at 30 & 51

possible scenario might be

Johnson at 20, Redman at 21, Glass-McCasker (or M.Brown) at 30, Flynn (or Nyuon) at 51

B) pick a best available with 20 and address KP needs with 21 regardless of whether arguably better credentialled players are still available.

possible scenario might be

Johnson or Redman at 20, M.Brown at 21 (to get in ahead of Bombers), Johnson, Redman or Rioli at 30, Flynn (or Nyoun) at 51

C) Pick best available KP players at 20 & 21 and best available with 30 & 51

possible scenario

Glass McCasker at 20, M.Brown at 21

[KT31]

Re: 2015 Draft Watch

11: Carlton – Harry McKay

Height: 200cm, Weight: 85kg, DOB: 24/12/1997
Recruited from: Gippsland Power
Draft Range: 5-30

200cm key forward who has shown he can also provide a handy rotation through the ruck. Understands how to body up against his opponent, before using his size to shift his opponent under the ball. A strong overhead mark who converts truly in front of goal, and has tremendous athleticism in the way that he likes to turn through traffic, step around a player and quickly change directions to create space.

Could have been a player we picked up, If he has defence and could play back he would fill a couple of needs.

[GVGjr]

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If Ben McKay is gone none of the other players you have mentioned address our KPD or ruck issues. With pick 11 we would certainly have got one. So the decision to trade down seems a high risk move unless the club feels very certain someone will slip through.

Just as an approach to drafting, I fundamentally disagree with drafting players to cover specific needs. 'Reaching' for players doesn't work too often.

Lets assume again all 20 from 'Gone' lists are gone! I wonder then would we;

A) go for best available at 20 & 21 regardless of player type and look for key position types at 30 & 51

I like this approach.

possible scenario might be

Johnson at 20, Redman at 21, Glass-McCasker (or M.Brown) at 30, Flynn (or Nyuon) at 51

B) pick a best available with 20 and address KP needs with 21 regardless of whether arguably better credentialled players are still available.

possible scenario might be

Johnson or Redman at 20, M.Brown at 21 (to get in ahead of Bombers), Johnson, Redman or Rioli at 30, Flynn (or Nyoun) at 51

C) Pick best available KP players at 20 & 21 and best available with 30 & 51

possible scenario

Glass McCasker at 20, M.Brown at 21

Good list of options, I'm not as bullish on Glass-McCasker but would consider him at 30 or 51. Just as an observation we haven't been big on drafting WA boys in recent years. I don't expect this year to be any different.

[Ghost Dog]

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Just as an approach to drafting, I fundamentally disagree with drafting players to cover specific needs. 'Reaching' for players doesn't work too often.



I like this approach.




Good list of options, I'm not as bullish on Glass-McCasker but would consider him at 30 or 51. Just as an observation we haven't been big on drafting WA boys in recent years. I don't expect this year to be any different.

Homesickness as a factor?

[Missing Dog]

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Is Ben McKay really that likely to be gone? I've seen him a couple times and he looked a fair way off it. I thought pick 25 would be the top of his range, he needs a lot of work.

[The Doctor]

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Is Ben McKay really that likely to be gone? I've seen him a couple times and he looked a fair way off it. I thought pick 25 would be the top of his range, he needs a lot of work.

you might be right

my question is what do we do if our key tall targets are gone.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Is Ben McKay really that likely to be gone? I've seen him a couple times and he looked a fair way off it. I thought pick 25 would be the top of his range, he needs a lot of work.

Do you like him at Pick 20/21 for us bulldogsman?