Australia v India Test Series 2024/25

[Sedat]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

Does anyone really think that facing Bumrah and Siraj with a pink ball under lights in Adelaide is going to end any differently?

There's no better pink ball bowler in the world than Starc. Australia could win in Adelaide - might be a 2 day test.

[azabob]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

Has any sport fallen more from the publics consicousness than cricket?

When I was growing up, summer = cricket and cricket = summer. Summer was cricket. That is all anyone talked about or watched. This Test Match has started and played in our prime time window and has not get anywhere near the coverage or people talking about it compared to many summers ago.

Maybe I am living in a different bubble. But I don't recall a sport losing its broad appeal any faster than Cricket in Australia.

AP, for me it was sandpaper gate which killed cricket off for me.

The sheer arrogance of everyone involved. I still vividly remember the story breaking and the aftermath.

Changes were made and a good game spoken, but the damage was done.

I cannot even feign interest.

I am certain a lot of the public also started feeling the same way and found other things to entertain them.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

AP, for me it was sandpaper gate which killed cricket off for me.

The sheer arrogance of everyone involved. I still vividly remember the story breaking and the aftermath.

Changes were made and a good game spoken, but the damage was done.

I cannot even feign interest.

I am certain a lot of the public also started feeling the same way and found other things to entertain them.

I just don’t like how CA is doing things. I loved the tests and then a solid one day series or tri series.

Now they sold the rights to Foxtel the perfunctory one dayers go there, the tests are best format but we’ve been beating weaker opponents who can’t bat out here which hasn’t made for the best of it. Then there’s shoving the Big Bash down our throats which I still can’t get into. For me there used to be a rhythm to the fixture and his summer went. But CA are chasing cash and an agenda that doesn’t feel the same to me.

I will continue to have the tests on in the background while I do other stuff. But the way CA run things it’s just hard to keep the feeling I used to have. They’d rather Marnus play woefully out of go just so he can star in more KFC ads. There’s no selection integrity to things and no real development to speak of. It feels like another consumer product to choose or disregard and not like something that’s synonymous with Summer in Australia.

I’m stuck with the AFEL as a code and ****ed up governing body because I have the dogs in my DNA. But I don’t have that with any other sport. So for me it’s an easy process to start drifting away from cricket. Maybe they’re hoping to get a generation addicted to big bash and lock people in long term. Maybe I’m not their target anymore. But I just don’t like big bash, miss the one dayers and see that test cricket in this country isn’t the priority. So I guess I’d fade off serious interest and hope for training reports on here for my sports fix between doggies seasons.

[Grantysghost]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

AP, for me it was sandpaper gate which killed cricket off for me.

The sheer arrogance of everyone involved. I still vividly remember the story breaking and the aftermath.

Changes were made and a good game spoken, but the damage was done.

I cannot even feign interest.

I am certain a lot of the public also started feeling the same way and found other things to entertain them.

Have to say I feel close to this.

It's Smith. His killed cricket for me. There's nothing about him I like.

Head I can get behind.

In fact even Cummins for some reason annoys me. He's too bloody nice!

Maybe it's just that NSW cohort.

[GVGjr]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

I still love test cricket but our selectors in recent years has made it difficult to love this Australian team in all versions of the game.
The arrogant way some players bat and the lack of accountability when players aren't performing isn't something that I appreciate about this side. Then there is the issue of the way the players turned on Justin Langer and the free ride they've had since.

I can't see our selectors making the hard calls they now need to but it's going to be forced on them once the crowds start to dwindle.

[GVGjr]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

AP, for me it was sandpaper gate which killed cricket off for me.

The sheer arrogance of everyone involved. I still vividly remember the story breaking and the aftermath.

Changes were made and a good game spoken, but the damage was done.

I cannot even feign interest.

I am certain a lot of the public also started feeling the same way and found other things to entertain them.

While it was massively a low light of Australian cricket the refresh that followed was in someways worth it.
Lehmann had to go and Smith, Warner and Bancroft paid hefty disciplinary penalties. And by the way the bowlers got off lightly because they must have known what was going on.

[Grantysghost]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

While it was massively a low light of Australian cricket the refresh that followed was in someways worth it.
Lehmann had to go and Smith, Warner and Bancroft paid hefty disciplinary penalties. And by the way the bowlers got off lightly because they must have known what was going on.

That's the part for mine that is really shit house. Bancroft. Clearly led astray by senior players (the most senior) and it ended his test career. Meanwhile Smith and Warner carried on relatively unaffected.

You could relate to the test side once, AB, Deano, Boony, Ponting, Waugh even SKW.

Now I feel no connection at all.

Two words.

Michael Clarke.

[Axe Man]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

That's the part for mine that is really shit house. Bancroft. Clearly led astray by senior players (the most senior) and it ended his test career. Meanwhile Smith and Warner carried on relatively unaffected.

You could relate to the test side once, AB, Deano, Boony, Ponting, Waugh even SKW.

Now I feel no connection at all.

Two words.

Michael Clarke.

If Bancroft was any good he would be playing test cricket. If you are good at sport you could go around punching babies and all would be forgiven. If you are a marginal talent, bad luck.

Smith and Warner paid a heavy price no matter what you think of them. Other ball tampering incidents in world cricket have largely resulted in a light slap on the wrist.

[Grantysghost]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

If Bancroft was any good he would be playing test cricket. If you are good at sport you could go around punching babies and all would be forgiven. If you are a marginal talent, bad luck.

Smith and Warner paid a heavy price no matter what you think of them. Other ball tampering incidents in world cricket have largely resulted in a light slap on the wrist.

Can i use the nauseated button?

This wasn't a bit of sugar. This was blatantly cheating with sandpaper. I can't be onboard any sympathy for those guys and they did hang Bancroft out to dry as they were the leaders at the time.

[GVGjr]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

If Bancroft was any good he would be playing test cricket. If you are good at sport you could go around punching babies and all would be forgiven. If you are a marginal talent, bad luck.

Smith and Warner paid a heavy price no matter what you think of them. Other ball tampering incidents in world cricket have largely resulted in a light slap on the wrist.

Sometimes you have to go hard to fix a problem and be prepared to set a new standard. They were hefty suspensions the players received but it had to be done. For too long we've allowed players to get away with things largely based on their talent but this time we had to enforce a high standard.

[Axe Man]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

Can i use the nauseated button?

This wasn't a bit of sugar. This was blatantly cheating with sandpaper. I can't be onboard any sympathy for those guys and they did hang Bancroft out to dry as they were the leaders at the time.

Sometimes you have to go hard to fix a problem and be prepared to set a new standard. They were hefty suspensions the players received but it had to be done. For too long we've allowed players to get away with things largely based on their talent but this time we had to enforce a high standard.

I never argued against the penalties and I do have sympathy for Bancroft. Smith and Warner paid a heavy price, to say they carried on relatively unaffected is blatantly untrue.

[GVGjr]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

I never argued against the penalties and I do have sympathy for Bancroft. Smith and Warner paid a heavy price, to say they carried on relatively unaffected is blatantly untrue.

I don't think I'm arguing against you and I agree that they paid a high price but it needed to happen.
I look at the challenges Infront of CA now and I hope that much like back at the days of sandpaper gate they can make the hard decisions when needed.

[hujsh]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

I never argued against the penalties and I do have sympathy for Bancroft. Smith and Warner paid a heavy price, to say they carried on relatively unaffected is blatantly untrue.

Shahid Afridi bit the ball and got suspended for 2 T20 matches.

It does seem like most other countries responses to ball tampering is to say they'll refuse to take the field. At the time I was fine with Cricket Aus going hard but some others on here were absolutely against the sanctions because of how harsh they were compared to other nations. No way you can argue the penalties were anything but tough.

[mighty_west]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

If Bancroft was any good he would be playing test cricket. If you are good at sport you could go around punching babies and all would be forgiven. If you are a marginal talent, bad luck.

Smith and Warner paid a heavy price no matter what you think of them. Other ball tampering incidents in world cricket have largely resulted in a light slap on the wrist.

Agree with this, If Bancroft was reeling off tons over the past month instead of failing with the EW he'd be opening with Uzzy i have no doubt about that, could you imagine the pressure from everywhere on the selectors if he was smashing the house down but still being ignored!!!!

As far as supporting, will always, as far as i'm concerned India cheated a few weeks back in the lead up game yet suprise suprise charges were dropped, amazing, England and lollies (yes it works i tried at at training in the nets one time, swung a mile with an old nut, Paki's and game fixing, picjing at the seam, throwing ball on used pitches (rough surfaces), i still believe to this day we were harshly done by, yeah shit thing to do but still copped far too heavy penalties imo, Warner a year yep tick, Cam i would have given maybe 6 months (difficult position for young player to be in) and Smith, 1 maybe 2 games max, every Aussie player would have known, he's Captain so he cops the game or two.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

Agree with this, If Bancroft was reeling off tons over the past month instead of failing with the EW he'd be opening with Uzzy i have no doubt about that, could you imagine the pressure from everywhere on the selectors if he was smashing the house down but still being ignored!!!!

As far as supporting, will always, as far as i'm concerned India cheated a few weeks back in the lead up game yet suprise suprise charges were dropped, amazing, England and lollies (yes it works i tried at at training in the nets one time, swung a mile with an old nut, Paki's and game fixing, picjing at the seam, throwing ball on used pitches (rough surfaces), i still believe to this day we were harshly done by, yeah shit thing to do but still copped far too heavy penalties imo, Warner a year yep tick, Cam i would have given maybe 6 months (difficult position for young player to be in) and Smith, 1 maybe 2 games max, every Aussie player would have known, he's Captain so he cops the game or two.

I thought the penalty for the crime was a bit overs. But the penalty for absurdity of using actual sandpaper surrounded by 20 cameras was about right.

I mean if you fudge your taxes the ATO looks at you, maybe they do something or not. But if you have an ABN to get cheap prices at Bunnings and you start claiming $1,000,000 in GST reimbursements for a start up petrochemical firm while doing interviews on TV literally showing you doing crime then ATO & AFP have no choice in the matter.

I still marvel at the sheer brazen stupidity of it like something from a Guy Ritchie movie.