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[Raw Toast]

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If Theo ends up with the Cubs that's freakin' awesome, if Francona comes with him, I may need a moment alone

Glorious, though how would you survive the Cubs actually doing well?

Pretty amazing stories are coming out re the Red Sox collapse: http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...:twit:rtbutton

And my MLB subscription covers the playoffs, so I'm open to the possibility of having people around on Saturday (and maybe Sunday).

[anfo27]

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Glorious, though how would you survive the Cubs actually doing well?

Pretty amazing stories are coming out re the Red Sox collapse: http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...:twit:rtbutton

And my MLB subscription covers the playoffs, so I'm open to the possibility of having people around on Saturday (and maybe Sunday).

Wow, i had a read of that article and i don't think i have ever red anything as ridiculous as that. They don't hold back over there do they?

[KT31]

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Wow, i had a read of that article and i don't think i have ever red anything as ridiculous as that. They don't hold back over there do they?

Agree no holding back in that article.
How could the Red Socks members and management let it get to this point ?

[The Underdog]

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Glorious, though how would you survive the Cubs actually doing well?

Pretty amazing stories are coming out re the Red Sox collapse: http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...:twit:rtbutton

And my MLB subscription covers the playoffs, so I'm open to the possibility of having people around on Saturday (and maybe Sunday).

It looks like it's going to happen, although reports are that Francona is unlikely.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111011&content_id=25609938&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

I think the Globe story has elements of beat-up. Baseball clubhouses are pretty different environments from many sporting organisations, although the allegations of not being in the dugout with teammates during such a dire run and lack of commitment to conditioning are pretty unprofessional. As another article I read said, Francona wasn't responsible for his starters having a 7+ ERA in September. And they went 81-40 also while he was living in a hotel and going through a marriage break-up.

[The Underdog]

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Tigers with an early 2-0 lead. If they can win and tie the series at 2-2 then they are probably favourites all of a sudden with Verlander on the mound tomorrow.

[The Underdog]

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Well Valverde didn't blow the save but he blew something. Why the hell did they intentionally walk Beltre to get to Napoli in the 11th?
Nelson Cruz has to be the series MVP whatever happens from here.
Tough road for the Tigers from here.

[anfo27]

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Well Valverde didn't blow the save but he blew something. Why the hell did they intentionally walk Beltre to get to Napoli in the 11th?
Nelson Cruz has to be the series MVP whatever happens from here.
Tough road for the Tigers from here.

Only reason i can think of is that they were trying for a groundout double play. We had our chances again but couldn't come up with the hits when we really needed them. Big play from the Rangers in the 8th to throw Cabrera out at home.
Valverde has an ERA of over 6 when its not a save situation. We just don't have the depth in our pen to hand a lead to Valverde.
We're just about cooked. We should win tomorrow but we will need a miracle to take both games off Texas as home. We'll need Scherzer & Fister to pitch 7 innings and hand the ball to Benoit with a lead otherwise we got no chance.
Nellie does it to us again.
GUTTED.

[Raw Toast]

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Big play from the Rangers in the 8th to throw Cabrera out at home.

I chatted with a friend in the US about this who is much more knowledgeable about baseball than me. I thought Detroit should have pinch-run with Cabrera on 3rd. He said you can't take out your best player, but I replied that I'd love to have the guts to make a decision like that (which might just show my ignorance).

[The Underdog]

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I chatted with a friend in the US about this who is much more knowledgeable about baseball than me. I thought Detroit should have pinch-run with Cabrera on 3rd. He said you can't take out your best player, but I replied that I'd love to have the guts to make a decision like that (which might just show my ignorance).

Problem is if Young and the following batter strike out you've taken out your best hitter. However given it looked like Cruz threw out a boat travelling down the 3rd base line it would have been a gutsy and good call. manager's tend not to make the call's that can get them roasted after though. Nobody questions the safe decision.

[anfo27]

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I chatted with a friend in the US about this who is much more knowledgeable about baseball than me. I thought Detroit should have pinch-run with Cabrera on 3rd. He said you can't take out your best player, but I replied that I'd love to have the guts to make a decision like that (which might just show my ignorance).

Jim Leyland has pinch run for Victor a few times towards the end of the regular season in tight situations and everytime its backfired. We didn't get the run, it went to extras and we didn't have Victor there when it was his turn to hit. Jim was never going to make a call like that especially with Young up next who hasn't got a hit in the series and Avila to follow who is 2 for 32 in the post season. The way Nellie threw that ball in the only person who might have beat the throw was Austin Jackson.
On a side note i'm amazed that the runner coming home has the green light to run straight through the catcher. I don't like it and they should change the rules there. Did anyone see vision of Buster Posey having his season ended from this exact situation?

[anfo27]

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Tigers hanging in there with a tight 7-5 win over the rangers. Still looks like mission impossible to take 2 games in Texas. Looks like we finally got some luck from the baseball gods with big Miggys grounder hitting 3rd base and jumping over Beltre head for an RBI double and starting a 4 run 6th inning. Hoping we can ride lady luck for a little while longer.

[The Underdog]

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Amazingly the Brewers get the win behind an effective Randy Wolf to tie it up, so both series go at least to game 6.
Haven't seen any of yesterday but on my favourite subject of stupid intentional walks, I realised yesterday that in the 8th inning of game 4 the Rangers intentionally walked Cabrera to START the inning. none on, none out intentional walk. Why would you do that? Baseball seems to be a game where often teams can prosper despite their manager. The Rangers being a pretty good example.

[anfo27]

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Amazingly the Brewers get the win behind an effective Randy Wolf to tie it up, so both series go at least to game 6.
Haven't seen any of yesterday but on my favourite subject of stupid intentional walks, I realised yesterday that in the 8th inning of game 4 the Rangers intentionally walked Cabrera to START the inning. none on, none out intentional walk. Why would you do that? Baseball seems to be a game where often teams can prosper despite their manager. The Rangers being a pretty good example.

I did see that and also found it odd but i think his reasoning was they tried to pitch around him earlier but he chased an 0-2 pitch high and off the plate and hit down the 1st base line for 2RBI double. I guess he thought being such a tight game with Cabrera at the plate he is in scoring position already and with Martinez, Kelly & Young not hitting behind him then he thought he'd take his chances. Being a tigers fan i never like seeing the big fella get walked especially with nobody on.
Being a Cubs fan are you more interested in the NLCS or ALCS or it doesn't really matter?

[The Underdog]

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I did see that and also found it odd but i think his reasoning was they tried to pitch around him earlier but he chased an 0-2 pitch high and off the plate and hit down the 1st base line for 2RBI double. I guess he thought being such a tight game with Cabrera at the plate he is in scoring position already and with Martinez, Kelly & Young not hitting behind him then he thought he'd take his chances. Being a tigers fan i never like seeing the big fella get walked especially with nobody on.
Being a Cubs fan are you more interested in the NLCS or ALCS or it doesn't really matter?

Yes but you increase his chances of getting on base from maybe 40% to 100% and he has Martinez hitting behind him, it's not like it's the pitcher coming up. If he had of ended up as the winning run then Washington should have been crucified.

If I had my choice I'd rather watch the ALCS, better pitching, better teams.

[anfo27]

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Yes but you increase his chances of getting on base from maybe 40% to 100% and he has Martinez hitting behind him, it's not like it's the pitcher coming up. If he had of ended up as the winning run then Washington should have been crucified.

If I had my choice I'd rather watch the ALCS, better pitching, better teams.

Since i'm a tigers supporter i follow the AL about 90% of the time so even if the tigers were not in it i would spend most of my time following the AL as i now the rosters more. The NL i know the main hitters and pitchers and thats about it.

At least with walking Cabrera they limit the impact he has on a game. I'd be happy if Leyland intentionally walked Cruz from now on, he has single handedly beaten us. This guy is unbelievable, he took Verlander deep off a 100m/hr fastball for his record breaking 5th home run. He has all of the rangers home runs. If i was Wash i would have nellie in the 3 or 4 spot.

The cards up 3 games to 2. It seems that both teams can't get their starters to go more than 4 or so innings. If that was the tigers with our bullpen we would get smashed 4-0.