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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7613

    Re: Following our ex's...................

    I think most of us are able to forgive Griff knowing we won a flag because of the decision he made.

    But in the cruel horrible parallel universe where GWS beat us in the prelim and win the flag, would we still feel the same way? I think not

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    • Greystache
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Dec 2009
      • 9775

      Re: Following our ex's...................

      It's easy to be magnanimous in victory, so while he's still a spineless turd, I really don't anything him anymore.

      I don't miss him, I don't remember him, I don't wonder if we'd still have won if he stayed, and I didn't notice the nothing career he had after leaving. He's a bit like Lance Armstrong's 7 yellow jerseys, he won them, they exist, but they don't really mean anything.

      Contrast him with others and it's completely different-

      I think Lake is a dickhead but I still think of him as a club champion who was one of the best players I've ever seen.

      I think of Cooney as pathetic, he was a player who was tragically robbed of his best years, but who also represented the worst of the selfish culture that had reigned for so long at the club. He now tries to compensate for the club improving after he left by trying to pretending he's an Essendon legend who played an integral part in a dominant era and who's walls are adorned with his photos. I feel a bit sorry for him because he tried to re-invent himself into something no one wants and he's left with nothing.
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      • MrMahatma
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2007
        • 3959

        Re: Following our ex's...................

        Originally posted by Greystache
        It's easy to be magnanimous in victory, so while he's still a spineless turd, I really don't anything him anymore.

        I don't miss him, I don't remember him, I don't wonder if we'd still have won if he stayed, and I didn't notice the nothing career he had after leaving. He's a bit like Lance Armstrong's 7 yellow jerseys, he won them, they exist, but they don't really mean anything.

        Contrast him with others and it's completely different-

        I think Lake is a dickhead but I still think of him as a club champion who was one of the best players I've ever seen.

        I think of Cooney as pathetic, he was a player who was tragically robbed of his best years, but who also represented the worst of the selfish culture that had reigned for so long at the club. He now tries to compensate for the club improving after he left by trying to pretending he's an Essendon legend who played an integral part in a dominant era and who's walls are adorned with his photos. I feel a bit sorry for him because he tried to re-invent himself into something no one wants and he's left with nothing.
        Bit harsh on Coon I reckon. Could’ve no doubt moved to a bigger team earlier but stuck with us. He moved to Ess to extend his career and earnings.

        I’ve got no beef with Coon. He wasn’t perfect but at his peak was a joy to watch.

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        • The bulldog tragician
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2013
          • 1951

          Re: Following our ex's...................

          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
          I think most of us are able to forgive Griff knowing we won a flag because of the decision he made.

          But in the cruel horrible parallel universe where GWS beat us in the prelim and win the flag, would we still feel the same way? I think not
          Do. Not. Go. There.

          That would have seemed the continuation of all those malign fates we’ve suffered over the years. I’d better breathe into a paper bag while heading to the couch to re-watch the actual outcome.
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          • bulldogsthru&thru
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • May 2011
            • 7613

            Re: Following our ex's...................

            Originally posted by The bulldog tragician
            Do. Not. Go. There.

            That would have seemed the continuation of all those malign fates we’ve suffered over the years. I’d better breathe into a paper bag while heading to the couch to re-watch the actual outcome.
            Yeah sorry about that.

            Here, hope this makes you feel better

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 43876

              Re: Following our ex's...................

              Originally posted by MrMahatma
              Bit harsh on Coon I reckon. Could’ve no doubt moved to a bigger team earlier but stuck with us. He moved to Ess to extend his career and earnings.

              I’ve got no beef with Coon. He wasn’t perfect but at his peak was a joy to watch.
              I have no beef with any of our players and in a way I feel a bit sorry for Cooney because coaches often let his distracted attitude slide because of his talent in fact apparently one even had him in the mix to captain the side. At the Players Sponsors night Cooney was on a panel being interviewed and just about spent more time texting on his phone than listening to the questions he was being asked.
              In any measure other than talent he wasn't even close to being a captain.
              He also just wasn't mature enough to maximise his chances of reaching anywhere near his ability. He should however, not be critical of the club that stuck with him and I think he is a bit shitty that he wasn't part of our flag performance

              Griffen had a meltdown and made the wrong decision, Ward was stuck in the middle of a very poorly managed effort by the club.

              I was a bit annoyed with Nathan Brown who led us all to think he was signing on and that he would follow Darcy's lead but when Luke signed on Brown still departed.

              The players who have annoyed me the most have been the ones that talked themselves up and others down and yet failed to deliver.
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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9873

                Re: Following our ex's...................

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                What is it with ex-Bulldog players being upset about us booing the plastics generally and specifically? First Leon Cameron, now Gryphone. It's actually kind of nice to know we folk attending these games are being heard by them.
                Because they're used to the noise of a golf crowd while someone is on the green putting.

                Meh. He's a nothing to me, I don't even think of him as a Bulldog or even an ex Bulldog, it seems odd seeing him in our colours so that's how far removed I am from him. Best thing he did for us was put his tail between his legs, run and help us net Tom Boyd. We'd have no flag with him here.

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                • AndrewP6
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8142

                  Re: Following our ex's...................

                  If it wasn't written by the former captain who walked out on us, that would be a good read. But his words are so hollow and meaningless. I feel like editing it - "The Bulldogs meant everything to me but I walked out on them whilst captain anyway. I'm more important than all of them... you don't do what he did to a club that means something to you...

                  "I know it seemed on the outside that it was a bit of a weird departure, but hey, captains walk out on their clubs all the time. No big deal"...

                  I hold grudges, and what he did I cannot forgive. Even knowing what was to follow, I lost all respect for him when he bailed. I wish him no harm, but I am thrilled that his career fizzled out and amounted to nothing.
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                  • Go_Dogs
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10062

                    Re: Following our ex's...................

                    I don't hold a grudge against Ryan. It sucked when he left, but it worked out well for us. It was also the right decision for him. At his best I enjoyed watching him play and carry our side through some dark periods.
                    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                    • Bulldog Joe
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5433

                      Re: Following our ex's...................

                      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                      Yeah sorry about that.

                      Here, hope this makes you feel better

                      https://youtu.be/JT0DqIzr8IQ
                      Certainly makes me feel good.
                      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                      • Bulldog Joe
                        Premiership Moderator
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5433

                        Re: Following our ex's...................

                        Originally posted by AndrewP6
                        If it wasn't written by the former captain who walked out on us, that would be a good read. But his words are so hollow and meaningless. I feel like editing it - "The Bulldogs meant everything to me but I walked out on them whilst captain anyway. I'm more important than all of them... you don't do what he did to a club that means something to you...

                        "I know it seemed on the outside that it was a bit of a weird departure, but hey, captains walk out on their clubs all the time. No big deal"...

                        I hold grudges, and what he did I cannot forgive. Even knowing what was to follow, I lost all respect for him when he bailed. I wish him no harm, but I am thrilled that his career fizzled out and amounted to nothing.
                        I prefer the following version
                        "The Bulldogs meant everything to me but I knew that something needed to happen to that coach, and my body was stuffed anyway. It allowed them to get something worthwhile in a player trade, while giving them a chance to get a real match day coach....
                        Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                        • MrMahatma
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3959

                          Re: Following our ex's...................

                          Originally posted by AndrewP6
                          If it wasn't written by the former captain who walked out on us, that would be a good read. But his words are so hollow and meaningless. I feel like editing it - "The Bulldogs meant everything to me but I walked out on them whilst captain anyway. I'm more important than all of them... you don't do what he did to a club that means something to you...

                          "I know it seemed on the outside that it was a bit of a weird departure, but hey, captains walk out on their clubs all the time. No big deal"...

                          I hold grudges, and what he did I cannot forgive. Even knowing what was to follow, I lost all respect for him when he bailed. I wish him no harm, but I am thrilled that his career fizzled out and amounted to nothing.
                          I think Ryan’s exit can’t be explained or judged until everything about Macartney’s time there is known. It’s all good to blame Griff, Cooney, Higgins, Lake etc for leaving when we needed them to stay, but they all left cause of the coach (as I understand). So he must’ve been a tough guy to work for. Those that had other options, took them up.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: Following our ex's...................

                            Time has passed, Griff, Coon and Brian gave us many more moments of joy than they did at other clubs. Champion bulldogs all three.

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11717

                              Re: Following our ex's...................

                              Originally posted by marcov
                              Time has passed, Griff, Coon and Brian gave us many more moments of joy than they did at other clubs. Champion bulldogs all three.
                              Harris maybe. Lake is debatable if not outright wrong.
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                              • Greystache
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9775

                                Re: Following our ex's...................

                                Originally posted by hujsh
                                Harris maybe. Lake is debatable if not outright wrong.
                                He changed his name before the start of the 2008 season. He was a dual All Australian and arguably our best finals player in 2008-2010. He played comfortably his best football as Lake.
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