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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10204

    Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

    Originally posted by jeemak
    Now we have the holy trinity of awesomeness completed:

    http://www.theage.com.au/entertainme...30-gioa1o.html
    That lede is one of the funnier things I've read.
    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

      Originally posted by Scraggers
      A great article by Dallas Scott. The author of the blog Black Steam Train. Well worth the read.

      LINK
      Wow that is a great blog and excellent writing. This is why I hope this thread is not closed down, because that article just change my opinion about a few things. I can see his point about the cheap commodification of culture. And I'm now a little wary that the indigenous jumper thing is maybe not such a good idea.
      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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      • 1eyedog
        Hall of Fame
        • Mar 2008
        • 13310

        Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

        In honesty, it's much worse than simple or basic racism. It's because we're mindless, and we are without help.

        Collectively we are a bunch of morons that thirst for simple villains and good guys to fit within the construct of existence as we see it, with the only difference between us being our base preferences towards how we view what is happening before us.

        Our prejudices are equal. We build up walls around ourselves and those that share our views, and we continually feed ourselves with information that reaffirms them.

        Adam Goodes and this issue is simply a manifestation of this.

        If out of this mindless behaviour we can actually progress our society when it comes to the betterment of minorities that live within it, then great. However, this debate in its current form is beyond salvation.

        Jeemak this is highly philosophical and has direct implications for the evolution (or lack thereof) of cognitive thought. Perhaps, when we descended the trees onto the African Savannah we ate the wrong meat. Assuming of course you buy into the Out of Africa paradigm.

        I loved your post, it's so very true and it makes me question why are we even thinking at all. Perhaps we would have been better off staying in the trees.
        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21991

          Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

          Originally posted by 1eyedog
          Jeemak this is highly philosophical and has direct implications for the evolution (or lack thereof) of cognitive thought. Perhaps, when we descended the trees onto the African Savannah we eat the wrong meat. Assuming of course you buy into the Out of Africa paradigm.

          I loved your post, it's so very true and it makes me question why are we even thinking at all. Perhaps we would have been better off staying in the trees.
          Cheers, watching the Australian cricket team self destruct gave me pause to reflected on the concept of mindlessness............
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Dancin' Douggy
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 2876

            Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

            Because people THINK he did without actually listening to his speech.

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            • EasternWest
              Hall of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 10031

              Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

              Originally posted by The bulldog tragician
              Just some further food for thought: Adam Goodes' brother is on our list. I believe I have also read that Adam has bought a Bulldogs membership. I'm proud that our club through the Be Loud Be Fair campaign, Bob's article, Jordan Roughead's interview and now wearing the indigenous Guernsey are showing leadership.

              Adam Goodes has occasionally not played the game as I think it should be played, but I could cite dozens of others for whom this is the case. Counter balancing that is that he has made us all think about race issues. Sport is virtually the only forum through many of us even come into contact with an indigenous person and unfortunately is one of the very few spaces in which an Indigenous person can be adulated and respected. Goodes has also spoken out about family violence and is a White Ribbon ambassador.

              Racism isn't always deliberate and conscious, and I'm sure many of those that boo genuinely think there's no racial factor. It's called casual racism and is the sort of unthinking reflex what made even the supposedly enlightened Eddie McGuire come out with his unbelievable 'King Kong' comments.

              As as for him pointing out the girl who vilified him, he had a split second to do so. The next day he expressed concern for her well being and asked the media not to hound her.

              How sad that so soon after we saw some of the best that footy crowds and communities can do in the respect shown to Phil Walsh and his family that we are seeing this ugliness.
              Terrific post. Thanks for sharing it.

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Guys there has been some good discussions on this thread but we have decided to close it down tomorrow. I don't think we are going to be able to bring anything new to the discussion and every one has had a good chance to get their point of view over.
              It's time to get back onto this weeks games.
              I too would like to voice the opinion that this thread shouldn't be closed. It's been a terrific read and the most I've enjoyed following a thread for a long time.
              "It's over. It's all over."

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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

                Originally posted by jeemak
                Now we have the holy trinity of awesomeness completed:

                http://www.theage.com.au/entertainme...30-gioa1o.html
                I despise that moron

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67291

                  Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

                  Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                  I despise that moron
                  Couldn't agree more
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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27664

                    Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

                    Who are you talkng about? I think I know but (so) I don't want to click on the link.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • Bulldog4life
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 9607

                      Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      Who are you talkng about? I think I know but (so) I don't want to click on the link.
                      Bolt

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27664

                        Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

                        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                        Bolt
                        Thought so. I'm glad I didn't click on it.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Rocco Jones
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6932

                          Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          Thought so. I'm glad I didn't click on it.
                          It's from The Age and basically making him look like an idiot (purely by just stating the facts).

                          Very proud of our club. Love being a Bulldog at the moment.

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27664

                            Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

                            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                            It's from The Age and basically making him look like an idiot (purely by just stating the facts).

                            Very proud of our club. Love being a Bulldog at the moment.
                            I've always loved being a bulldog. Who does Blot write for? The Australian?
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13310

                              Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

                              Originally posted by Scraggers
                              A great article by Dallas Scott. The author of the blog Black Steam Train. Well worth the read.

                              LINK
                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              Wow that is a great blog and excellent writing. This is why I hope this thread is not closed down, because that article just change my opinion about a few things. I can see his point about the cheap commodification of culture. And I'm now a little wary that the indigenous jumper thing is maybe not such a good idea.
                              Every black man has the same opportunities according to Dallas. I've never met an Aboriginal person so ostracize his community to be honest. He seems to have separated from his cultural history and is predominately a white sympathizer. Good on him, but he is far from the voice of Aboriginal Australia. The National Indigenous Times Newspaper did an interesting story on him last year and it was not very supportive at all.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21991

                                Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

                                Originally posted by Twodogs
                                I've always loved being a bulldog. Who does Blot write for? The Australian?
                                He writes for 'straya! That's who.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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