Trade Rumours 2025

[doggies ftw]

Saints & Sanders would only both agree if it was a long term deal (on big money) IMO. No way either would take that deal for two years.

I wouldn’t give up a 1st in addition to Sanders either, it’d be a straight swap for mine or not interested. He’s got a hell of a lot of value

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Saints & Sanders would only both agree if it was a long term deal (on big money) IMO. No way either would take that deal for two years.

I wouldn’t give up a 1st in addition to Sanders either, it’d be a straight swap for mine or not interested. He’s got a hell of a lot of value

Also if it’s true he wants to go to Tassie on a few years. They will have plenty of draft picks and I would think be easier to deal with than the Saints. No need to panic and or trade my mate Sanders

[bulldogsthru&thru]

That’s likely to be west coast, no way he does that. By the sounds of things he’s pretty ok with Port just would prefer vic is my take, don’t think he’s the type to go nuclear if they held him (and matched our contract terms)

Im not sure he has to go nuclear. He'd still technically be out of contract and can just say he wants to leave. It's extremely rare a player wouldn't get to their nominated club in the draft. That's a huge gamble for Port given they'd either get 2 mid firsts from us OR a likely top 10 pick via compo.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Geelong are too preoccupied with Worpel , Curnow and possibly Marshall. We need to strike THIS YEAR. Cannot give Geelong a sniff next year. If they get their sights on him then he’s pretty much 90% there. They rarely miss their man.

and re: Wilkie ? If it meant sanders then so be it.

if I was saints I’d be going full hog for sanders with a 2 year deal and then when he goes to Tassie, they might just give up a 2 picks in the top 10 suiting saints a lot more than say our first this year

I agree but given the Wilkie talk I highly doubt he's a chance at coming to us this season. We wouldn't have the capital to get both in via trades (unless there's a shock player involved).

Unless of course Sanders to saints for Wilkie is on the cards but I doubt saints would accept that or even us offer it. Any other of our good players is off limits imo.

[doggies ftw]

Im not sure he has to go nuclear. He'd still technically be out of contract and can just say he wants to leave. It's extremely rare a player wouldn't get to their nominated club in the draft. That's a huge gamble for Port given they'd either get 2 mid firsts from us OR a likely top 10 pick via compo.

Yeah that’s my point they’d just match and trade him to us (or other clubs) so we’d still have to offer just as much next year likely. The PSD wouldn’t be a threat because WCE or Richmond/Essendon etc would absolutely pick him up no way he gets through to us Geelong or Hawks, and Port would likely have a pick before us anyway so it’s not a threat.

Yes maybe they fall off a cliff and rather a compo but I dunno it’s a lot of variables to hope for. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re not even that bad next year, their list definitely isn’t the worst - they made a prelim last year, this year was just a Ken Hinkley farewell year joke. Personally if it’s in play right now you just do it and pay the magic beans and get an extra year with Butters and Bont.

He may grow to like Carr, his head may get turned by Geelong or others etc it’s just too risky to wait, IF it’s a chance right now you take it.

[GVGjr]

Just leave and stop complaining

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In fairness, it's not through a lack of trying.

[GVGjr]

Ideally we’d get him as a FA, that’d be best case scenario but Port may just match and force a trade anyway. They’ve got the cash to do that and it doesn’t sound like Butters hates the place just may prefer to come back to vic. So think they’d take that risk for a better deal.

Also I think if it’s on offer you just get it done, not only can he help us win a flag next year, but there’s also so much variable to leave it to next year if it’s a genuine possibility right now. We’ve seen this all before and if he comes out of contract next year and has Geelong, Hawks etc all over him. Who’s to say we can keep his attention? I’m not taking that risk to save on a couple of magic beans (first round draft picks)

There has been a bit of work done to position ourselves for a tilt at some A grade talent. Who know's how it will play out but there has been some unselfish acts to help us make some offers.

[doggies ftw]

Also if it’s true he wants to go to Tassie on a few years. They will have plenty of draft picks and I would think be easier to deal with than the Saints. No need to panic and or trade my mate Sanders

It’s not panicking though because we want to get rid of Sanders. It’s only in play if Saints turn his head and he requests a trade now, in that case we get Wilkie now or hold him and hope he’s worth more in 2 years time? No brainer.

It comes down to Butters for mine. It’s pretty clear we can’t play both Sanders & Kennedy at half forward and be a good side. The games gone past stock piling inside mids in the fwd line.

If we were to get Butters, Sanders value will tank - even post Libba/Treloar, Bont, Butters, Richards, Freijah, Kennedy is more than sufficient for the next 3+ years and Sanders probably doesn’t even get a look in. If we’re not gonna get Butters this year or next year, Sanders can bide his time for one more year and take over after Libba.

So if we think we will get Butters then let’s get in front of it and be proactive for once and cash in now (Wilkie) rather than let our asset lose value (like we’ve done with Marra/Baz recently). If Sanders sits in the fwd line for two years he’s not gonna be worth much when Tassie comes anyway

[jeemak]

We're more than just Wilkie away from winning a flag, and I would hate to see us trading our future away for a 30 year old (albeit gun). And make no mistake, Sanders is our future either based on how good he could be as an inside midfielder (of which we'll be in short supply of soon enough) or how much trade capital he will likely hold when Tassie enters the competition.

I consider Sanders off limits unless a stupid request is somehow followed by an acceptance of a stupid counter-offer. Even if we land Butters we're going to need him.

[Bornadog]

We're more than just Wilkie away from winning a flag, and I would hate to see us trading our future away for a 30 year old (albeit gun). And make no mistake, Sanders is our future either based on how good he could be as an inside midfielder (of which we'll be in short supply of soon enough) or how much trade capital he will likely hold when Tassie enters the competition.

I consider Sanders off limits unless a stupid request is somehow followed by an acceptance of a stupid counter-offer. Even if we land Butters we're going to need him.

Absolutely. We need more than Wilkie in the back line.

[jeemak]

Absolutely. We need more than Wilkie in the back line.

If we lose Sanders now we have another hole in our half forward/wing area immediately, and then a hole in our inside midfielder options thereafter. I don't see the value in immediately weakening an area of genuine weakness and match losing areas of the ground, especially given at least two thirds of the season saw Sanders being able to play a role and finish well to an extent none of the others playing it could really do.

We need to find a way to land Wilkie and keep Sanders off the table if we actually want a net benefit in our playing fortunes. Dolan ain't Sanders, nor is Cooper at this point and I rate both of them. But they ain't Sanders, they're no where near him at this point.

[doggies ftw]

If we lose Sanders now we have another hole in our half forward/wing area immediately, and then a hole in our inside midfielder options thereafter. I don't see the value in immediately weakening an area of genuine weakness and match losing areas of the ground, especially given at least two thirds of the season saw Sanders being able to play a role and finish well to an extent none of the others playing it could really do.

We need to find a way to land Wilkie and keep Sanders off the table if we actually want a net benefit in our playing fortunes. Dolan ain't Sanders, nor is Cooper at this point and I rate both of them. But they ain't Sanders, they're no where near him at this point.

We have a genuine weakness in our HFF area because of Sanders. I rate what he projects as, as an inside mid. He definitely isn’t a forward and playing him and Kennedy at HFF is a big part of our issues - which Bevo recognised towards the end of the year. You can’t stack the forward line with non forwards in 2025

If we were to get Butters he would almost certainly leave for opportunity and his value would tank from where it is now. He doesn’t get a look in over Bont, Red, Butters, Freijah and Kennedy offers more because he’s a better forward and you can only play the 1.

If we don’t get Butters then sure he can bide his time for one more season til Libba & Treloar hangs them up, but realistically he needs to improve a lot this off season and push Libba out otherwise I don’t really see where he fits this coming season

Wilkie is a huge net positive over our 7th best mid being tacked onto a forward line spot and Dolan/Hynes will rocket past him as a FWD probably by round 1 (again, not as players but as a forward)

[Axe Man]

Have I missed something with Tassie coming in and potential compensation for players leaving? I'm not following the talk of multiple picks being traded for Sanders.

I assumed it would be like when GCS and GWS came in - an uncontracted player signs with them (eg Ward) and we get a single draft pick as compensation based on whatever secret formula the AFL decide on.

Obviously if a player is contracted they would have to trade draft picks but if a player like Sanders is considering Tassie he's going to make sure he's out of contract at the right time or his manager isn't doing his job.

[doggies ftw]

Have I missed something with Tassie coming in and potential compensation for players leaving? I'm not following the talk of multiple picks being traded for Sanders.

I assumed it would be like when GCS and GWS came in - an uncontracted player signs with them (eg Ward) and we get a single draft pick as compensation based on whatever secret formula the AFL decide on.

Obviously if a player is contracted they would have to trade draft picks but if a player like Sanders is considering Tassie he's going to make sure he's out of contract at the right time or his manager isn't doing his job.

Spot on, relying on afl compo is not a strategy. It’s a last resort. IF (and I’m not saying this is the case) we think he will go there, then you deal now when it’s in our control rather than wasting more development and hoping for a magic bean or two.

[Sedat]

We have a genuine weakness in our HFF area because of Sanders. I rate what he projects as, as an inside mid. He definitely isn’t a forward and playing him and Kennedy at HFF is a big part of our issues - which Bevo recognised towards the end of the year. You can’t stack the forward line with non forwards in 2025

If we were to get Butters he would almost certainly leave for opportunity and his value would tank from where it is now. He doesn’t get a look in over Bont, Red, Butters, Freijah and Kennedy offers more because he’s a better forward and you can only play the 1.

If we don’t get Butters then sure he can bide his time for one more season til Libba & Treloar hangs them up, but realistically he needs to improve a lot this off season and push Libba out otherwise I don’t really see where he fits this coming season

Wilkie is a huge net positive over our 7th best mid being tacked onto a forward line spot and Dolan/Hynes will rocket past him as a FWD probably by round 1 (again, not as players but as a forward)

Whilst I agree with the above rationale, it would represent a significant failure by our recruiters and list management team to invest so much on that pick 6 (trading up the order, sacrificing a future 1st) and then to effectively burn it 2 years later if that is when eventuates (no matter how good the reasons, and Wilkie is a very good reason IMO).

When Geelong traded with Gold Coast for picks, they got Bowes and pick 7 (Jhye Clark) as part of Gold Coast's salary dump on Bowes. I know that is an extreme example but we sold the farm for Gold Coast's pick 6 a couple of years ago, with the expectation that we would secure a 10+ year elite asset - cashing that out after 2 years is undeniably a poor result. We just have to nail the higher picks - Sanders, Buss, Clarke represent mixed results at best, considering who was on the boards at the time of each selection.