Trade Rumours 2025

[Bornadog]

Sam Edmund says, Saints yet to present Wilkie with an increase in dollars. Currently on around $750K, but we have upped this by $400k, which has made him think.

Wilkie is waiting to hear from Saints and is also a possible future captain. Is he using us?

[Happy Days]

I don’t think “using” is the right word for it. We approached him and gave him this mega offer seemingly out of the blue, if he wants to stay he’s probably entitled to go back to the Saints with it and see what they can do for him.

[whythelongface]

Sam Edmund says, Saints yet to present Wilkie with an increase in dollars. Currently on around $750K, but we have upped this by $400k, which has made him think.

Wilkie is waiting to hear from Saints and is also a possible future captain. Is he using us?

for sure. That is always going to happen. But on the flip side he is definitely considering our offer. He may reject it and stay with the Saints but the fact there is silence means there is a chance he jumps ship, albeit a very very slight chance.

[Sedat]

for sure. That is always going to happen. But on the flip side he is definitely considering our offer. He may reject it and stay with the Saints but the fact there is silence means there is a chance he jumps ship, albeit a very very slight chance.

Saints haven't sent through a revised offer to Wilkie because they are scrambling to get a suitable deal up - they did not envisage having to renegotiate with Wilkie when they went on their buying spree, on top of paying more than they initially budgeted to retain NWM and Windhager. Getting Steele and Marshall off the books would have absolutely already been factored in to their salary cap calculations - the Wilkie approach by us has thrown a big snag.

They can't come close to matching our dollars (now $1.2m a season) and they will struggle to even match our 4 year tenure. He's under contract and there's the lure of captaincy, so St Kilda still have the whip hand, but clearly there is a lot to play out on this.

[jeemak]

We have a genuine weakness in our HFF area because of Sanders. I rate what he projects as, as an inside mid. He definitely isn’t a forward and playing him and Kennedy at HFF is a big part of our issues - which Bevo recognised towards the end of the year. You can’t stack the forward line with non forwards in 2025

If we were to get Butters he would almost certainly leave for opportunity and his value would tank from where it is now. He doesn’t get a look in over Bont, Red, Butters, Freijah and Kennedy offers more because he’s a better forward and you can only play the 1.

If we don’t get Butters then sure he can bide his time for one more season til Libba & Treloar hangs them up, but realistically he needs to improve a lot this off season and push Libba out otherwise I don’t really see where he fits this coming season

Wilkie is a huge net positive over our 7th best mid being tacked onto a forward line spot and Dolan/Hynes will rocket past him as a FWD probably by round 1 (again, not as players but as a forward)

We played Sanders at half forward because we had nobody else - it's not his fault he was the best we had for the role. Yes, his form dropped at the end of the year but he was excellent prior to that.

It's a massive stretch to say Dolan and Hynes will be anything close to what he is next year as a half forward, let alone as the next cab off the rank as an inside midfielder. Both are great prospects (I saw it with Hynes very early) but they're nowhere near Sanders.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

From gettable this morning:
- dogs becoming increasingly confident with Wilkie situation although still a long shot. Saints haven't revised any offer. Wilkie and dogs still waiting to hear back (imo we surely have set a deadline).
- dogs favourite to land Budarik from the suns. Brisbane the other candidate.
- still in the running for Butts
- Considering the option of trading our pick 10 and 28 to the suns for pick 6 which could be used for Wilkie. This was hypothesising though I think.
- Will Darcy expected to go in the 40s or 50s.

[doggies ftw]

We played Sanders at half forward because we had nobody else - it's not his fault he was the best we had for the role. Yes, his form dropped at the end of the year but he was excellent prior to that.

It's a massive stretch to say Dolan and Hynes will be anything close to what he is next year as a half forward, let alone as the next cab off the rank as an inside midfielder. Both are great prospects (I saw it with Hynes very early) but they're nowhere near Sanders.

Disagree with that completely, we’re playing Sanders at half forward because he’s not in our best midfield not because he’s our best half forward

[jeemak]

Disagree with that completely, we’re playing Sanders at half forward because he’s not in our best midfield not because he’s our best half forward

Who's better at half forward (and able to roll up to the contest) that was available this season? Who did we prioritise Sanders over that was knocking the door down in the VFL?

As soon as we get a better option we play them and Sanders bides his time in the twos.

[doggies ftw]

Who's better at half forward (and able to roll up to the contest) that was available this season? Who did we prioritise Sanders over that was knocking the door down in the VFL?

As soon as we get a better option we play them and Sanders bides his time in the twos.

Just to clarify, I don’t disagree we didnt have great options at HF this year, considering our injuries in the front half. But my point is still he’s playing there because he can’t crack our midfield, not because he’s very good at the role.

Kennedy is our forward half grunt and rotational mid. No room for two, we need half forwards who can cover the ground, pressure & defend. Dolan will absolutely go past his impact at Half forward in the very near future. Hynes more of a longer term Kennedy replacement but much more forward sense & craft.

Sanders did good considering his skillset but it’s absolutely not his spot and we lose nothing by him not playing half forward - hell I’d be surprised if he’s even in the 22 next year if he doesn’t win a midfield spot, he’s there because he can’t crack the midfield. I’m quietly confident with another preseason he takes the next step and wins a genuine midfield spot. In the hypothetical that Butters came in as we were talking about, he wouldn’t get a game.

The club would be giving absolutely zero consideration to what we’re losing from half forward by giving up Sanders, they’d only be considering what we lose from our future midfield

[Aidan7557]

A lot of noise building around butters. Does anyone see a world where we could get Jamarra to the suns for their pick 13 or 6?. Marra, pick 28, future second for Suns pick 6 or 13. We would most likely have to pay Marra's full wage too. Then we could go pick 10, (6 or 13) and future first for Butters and maybe their 2025 or 2026 second. But the big question for me is still Butts who is an obvious need (or any key defender of note). No way we could get butters and wilkie done....

[bulldogsthru&thru]

A lot of noise building around butters. Does anyone see a world where we could get Jamarra to the suns for their pick 13 or 6?. Marra, pick 28, future second for Suns pick 6 or 13. We would most likely have to pay Marra's full wage too. Then we could go pick 10, (6 or 13) and future first for Butters and maybe their 2025 or 2026 second. But the big question for me is still Butts who is an obvious need (or any key defender of note). No way we could get butters and wilkie done....

We'd be lucky to get a bag of chips for Jamarra at this point. The only way we get anything is with a 2nd club showing interest.

[jazzadogs]

A lot of noise building around butters. Does anyone see a world where we could get Jamarra to the suns for their pick 13 or 6?. Marra, pick 28, future second for Suns pick 6 or 13. We would most likely have to pay Marra's full wage too. Then we could go pick 10, (6 or 13) and future first for Butters and maybe their 2025 or 2026 second. But the big question for me is still Butts who is an obvious need (or any key defender of note). No way we could get butters and wilkie done....

We can trade up to 2027 picks now, so I think there will be ways for us to satisfy the other clubs if we need to.

A happy hypothetical trade week for us...(somebody has to go full BT, might as well be me...)

Buku for pick 35 (this might depend on what the Blues get for Curnow...if they get early picks they might be open to swaps because they have an early bid to match).

Marra, pick 10 and pick 28 (1781 points) for pick 6 (1659 points) and Budarick. Really this is a points trade, plus Marra for Budarick. Banking on Gold Coasts history of being horrible at the trade table continuing here...

Pick 6 and either 2026/27 future 2nd for Butters and 42.

Sanders OR either 2026/27 future 1st (hopefully 18) for Wilkie.

Ins - Budarick, pick 35, Butters, Pick 42, Wilkie
Outs - Buku, Marra, pick 10, pick 28, 2026/27 future 1st and 2nd

2025 draft hand - pick 35, pick 42
2026 draft hand - 3rd and 4th round picks - this is a concern with Levi West and El Souki available to us

[EasternWest]

So if we have offered Wilkie 400k extra than he has been offered at the Saints and he takes it then we have to hate him because he's a mercenary right? And if Saints win a flag we have to say of Wilkie "could've had a flag" every time he gets mentioned. That's how it works, right?

[1eyedog]

A lot of noise building around butters. Does anyone see a world where we could get Jamarra to the suns for their pick 13 or 6?. Marra, pick 28, future second for Suns pick 6 or 13. We would most likely have to pay Marra's full wage too. Then we could go pick 10, (6 or 13) and future first for Butters and maybe their 2025 or 2026 second. But the big question for me is still Butts who is an obvious need (or any key defender of note). No way we could get butters and wilkie done....

What's the noise?

[1eyedog]

So if we have offered Wilkie 400k extra than he has been offered at the Saints and he takes it then we have to hate him because he's a mercenary right? And if Saints win a flag we have to say of Wilkie "could've had a flag" every time he gets mentioned. That's how it works, right?

West Coast legit closer to a flag than the Aints. Wilkie knows it too so many holes still in their list.

He's one of the last couple of pieces in the jigsaw for us.