Tribunal and MRP

[Bornadog]

Xeri 3 weeks - let's see if he appeals. He should have got at least 4

[azabob]

That would be a big out. Can he appeal it?

I think they are appealing.

[Bornadog]

I think they are appealing.

To me that was a total dog act, how can they appeal

[azabob]

Darcy not cited for his hit to the chest (so he shouldn't) of Jordan Butts who ended up with a collapsed lung.

Xeri is in big trouble for his hit on Sparrow today - at least 5 weeks for that

Xerri suspended for three weeks.

In the vfl Ben Camporale four games for pushing a lions player into another lions player in the centre square. Resulting concussion and two teeth knocked out.

[Bornadog]

Tribunal Tonight

Xeri and Bailey suspensions upheld

[jeemak]

Jack Graham received a four week ban for a homophobic slur levelled towards a GWS opponent. After proactively owning up to it (otherwise it would probably have been six).

I hate all of the nasty 'obes and all of the nasty 'ists, and those who use those words to try and upset someone, but I can't see how being called a name by an ignorant person is worth the same as having your faced smashed by a violent person.

But in a world where actual genocide garners less condemnation among mainstream media than aggressive words towards the perpetrators of that genocide I'm probably out of touch.

If anyone has taken the time to view the Camporeale incident where a player has had a life changing injury inflicted upon him by a completely violent and reckless act, and can tell me that's worth the same penalty as being 'obed then I give up.

Now I'm not saying we should reduce the penalty for slurring, rather advocating for increasing the penalty for reckless violence. A guy got a concussion and needs two teeth to be fixed/replaced as a result of the Camporeale incident, the AFL's soft touch towards violence needs to be addressed.

[jazzadogs]

Tribunal Tonight

Xeri and Bailey suspensions upheld

Good for us, and maybe I missed an important angle, but I thought Bailey's bump was pretty clean. Generally if it doesn't end up in concussion the AFL don't care, so not sure why this one was different?

[Bornadog]

Good for us, and maybe I missed an important angle, but I thought Bailey's bump was pretty clean. Generally if it doesn't end up in concussion the AFL don't care, so not sure why this one was different?

I think because he smacked him in the Jaw

[jazzadogs]

I think because he smacked him in the Jaw

Xerri certainly smacked Sparrow in the jaw...

But apart from Haynes rubbing his face, the footage I've seen looks like Bailey collects Haynes sternum/chest with the top of his shoulder well below Haynes jaw.

Like I said, no complaints. But those sort of bumps which don't lead to concussions have been fines in recent times. I think Bailey is unlucky.

[Bornadog]

Xerri certainly smacked Sparrow in the jaw...

But apart from Haynes rubbing his face, the footage I've seen looks like Bailey collects Haynes sternum/chest with the top of his shoulder well below Haynes jaw.

Like I said, no complaints. But those sort of bumps which don't lead to concussions have been fines in recent times. I think Bailey is unlucky.

If you choose to bump and hit the head, you are gone.

[soupman]

Dumb idea and not necessarily a good one, should the AFL just change the way they do suspensions to a player offence count model?

My proposal is incidents are either suspendable or not.

If its suspendable then that player gets a week, increasing by a week for every additional incident they are involved in. Ie. First incident is 1 week regardless of what it is, second incident is 2, then 3 etc. Capped at 5 weeks. Good behaviour for say 2 years earns you back a level.

Takes the level of punishment away from the mrp, no more debating whether Xerri gets 3 or 4 weeks etc.

Of course the big issue is what is suspendable and not?

I personally think anything that is a non football action and hurts the opponent is suspendable, with the threshold being the player was unable to continue playing unaided within 1 minute. Anything that concusses a player is immediately deemed unsafe and thus suspendable, unless the "victim" greatly contributed to it.

Does away with "matrixes", hopefully most of the tribunal cases, is consistent and sim simple, punishes repeat offenders, and means Greene plays 5 times a year.

is it a terrible idea?

[Bornadog]

Dumb idea and not necessarily a good one, should the AFL just change the way they do suspensions to a player offence count model?

My proposal is incidents are either suspendable or not.

If its suspendable then that player gets a week, increasing by a week for every additional incident they are involved in. Ie. First incident is 1 week regardless of what it is, second incident is 2, then 3 etc. Capped at 5 weeks. Good behaviour for say 2 years earns you back a level.

Takes the level of punishment away from the mrp, no more debating whether Xerri gets 3 or 4 weeks etc.

Of course the big issue is what is suspendable and not?

I personally think anything that is a non football action and hurts the opponent is suspendable, with the threshold being the player was unable to continue playing unaided within 1 minute. Anything that concusses a player is immediately deemed unsafe and thus suspendable, unless the "victim" greatly contributed to it.

Does away with "matrixes", hopefully most of the tribunal cases, is consistent and sim simple, punishes repeat offenders, and means Greene plays 5 times a year.

is it a terrible idea?

I like the idea, but what about the severity of the incident? Bailey got a week and Lynch got 5 - so how would it work under your system?

[soupman]

I don't know their records but 1 week each unless they have history.

Think you'd have an asterix if an action is violent and severe then it could receive more, maybe worth double time (so Lynch assuming he had a clear record would get a 1 and a 2 week suspension).

I'd be pretty happy that generally speaking the kind of guys that do what Lynch did rack up offences so would pretty soon be getting 2 or 3 weeks on the regualr

[jazzadogs]

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I agree with Lyon, this absolutely should have been a suspension.

[Bulldog Joe]

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I agree with Lyon, this absolutely should have been a suspension.

Absolutely agree.

That is definitely as bad as punch to the face and should have had a minimum of at least 4 weeks.

Deliberate and dangerous.

A much milder incident cost Corey McKernan a Brownlow in about 1996