2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

[Axe Man]

Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

Don't understand why Shiel would leave this year. It's looking like injuries will wreck GWS this season but next year they will unfortunately be a big chance at the flag. At the end of next year he can walk under free agency for bucketloads of cash. Also can't see him choosing us over say Hawthorn unless we are offering him stupid money, and I'm sure North or St Kilda will be able to offer him stupider money than us.

[Happy Days]

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Obviously interested in Shiel but he's not as good as Treloar so we will hopefully not be looking to pay as much. To be totally honest I'm not into trading top 5 picks for anybody; the chance to get a crack at the first two years of development on an elite talent is the best way to build homegrown superstars and always will be (not that it applies to Shiel insomuch as to whoever we'd pick)

Re Roughy; have to say it warms my heart to see we might trade with the Saints, the single-most rollable club in world sport - especially when a ruckman is involved.

[Axe Man]

Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

Re Roughy; have to say it warms my heart to see we might trade with the Saints, the single-most rollable club in world sport - especially when a ruckman is involved.

Free agent - we will get a third round compo pick at best.

[Happy Days]

Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

Free agent - we will get a third round compo pick at best.

I was going to suggest that we match and trade given the (somehow) bullish market for him, but it's probably not fair to a great clubman to do so and handicap his last big payday.

So instead I'll posit that a 3rd round pick for a premiership-winning mobile superstar ruckman, also one of the club's top-tier leaders and in his prime at only 28 years of age is absolutely outrageous and we deserve band 2 at least*.

(*We need draft points and everyone knows the AFL makes it up so that no club is left unhappy anyway)

[mjp]

Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

Obviously interested in Shiel but he's not as good as Treloar so we will hopefully not be looking to pay as much. To be totally honest I'm not into trading top 5 picks for anybody; the chance to get a crack at the first two years of development on an elite talent is the best way to build homegrown superstars and always will be (not that it applies to Shiel insomuch as to whoever we'd pick)

Where do we sign up to swap pick 5 for Dylan Shiel?

That would be AWESOME!

[Mofra]

Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

Don't understand why Shiel would leave this year. It's looking like injuries will wreck GWS this season but next year they will unfortunately be a big chance at the flag. At the end of next year he can walk under free agency for bucketloads of cash. Also can't see him choosing us over say Hawthorn unless we are offering him stupid money, and I'm sure North or St Kilda will be able to offer him stupider money than us.

Not Shiil specifically, but GWS are all but resigned to losing one star this year due to cap pressure and they probably get more for a trade this year than they do as FA compo next year which at the pointy end of the ladder means the best they can hope for is a pick in the teens directly after their first round pick.

[EasternWest]

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Where do we sign up to swap pick 5 for Dylan Shiel?

That would be AWESOME!

Yeah I'm not sure I agree with HD. You can get a diamond at pick 5, but you also take a chance on it being coal. Whereas Shiel is already proven rolled gold and probably has ten more years in him. Where do I sign?

[jeemak]

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Shiel for pick 5 would be completely amazing. Would we do it for pick 5 and Dahl, and a return of a second or third round?

[Happy Days]

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Sorry I didn't make it clear - I would do pick 5 for Shiel, I just don't like or really want to trade top 5 picks.

We'd be looking at a package like what Jeemak outlined - which is less than what the Pies gave up for Treloar but more than 5 itself.

[DOG GOD]

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Shiel for pick 5 would be completely amazing. Would we do it for pick 5 and Dahl, and a return of a second or third round?

Shiel and 2nd rounder for Dahl and pick 5 would be a great result.

[Twodogs]

Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

Shiel for pick 5 would be completely amazing. Would we do it for pick 5 and Dahl, and a return of a second or third round?

Bring me my signing pen.

[Bornadog]

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Of course the question needs to be asked, is a draft pick coming through going to be better in the future than Shiel? Unknown of course, but do you take the punt

[Go_Dogs]

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Would we trade Bont or Macrae for Shiel?

[Twodogs]

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Would we trade Bont or Macrae for Shiel?

I'd ask for both.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

Would we trade Bont or Macrae for Shiel?

The counter to that is would you trade Stringer or the equivalent of Tim Walsh. Would you trade Jack Billings

The draft is an unknown, but Shiel is proven quality