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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #91
    Re: The Chad Thread

    Originally posted by ratsmac
    Everyone said Buddy was going to GWS once upon a time.
    They all reported Hodge retiring too. Wallis left us last week for Brisbane. Caddy wanted to stay at Geelong. No way Gibbs would ever be traded to Adelaide. Dogs stupid to demand Tom Boyd, GWS would never do it.

    Wingard may or may not end up with us, but you'd hope well paid sports journalists would have news to report, not a gut feel. The occasional source or a quote might actually represent reporting of news.
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #92
      Re: The Chad Thread

      I just read the article. After saying its Hawthorn and they're front runners for a while, Edmund goes onto say Wingard could actually end up at either club. And that he won't lie and say he's absolutely going to Hawthorn, because that's not the situation, but Hawthorn want him...
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      • Rocket Science
        Coaching Staff
        • Oct 2007
        • 4866

        #93
        Re: The Chad Thread

        My spidey sense is telling me Wingard's going nowhere.
        BORDERLINE FLYING

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        • Murphy'sLore
          WOOF Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 2085

          #94
          Re: The Chad Thread

          We put the mock on the minute this thread was opened...

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          • Bulldog Joe
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jul 2009
            • 5615

            #95
            Re: The Chad Thread

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            I just read the article. After saying its Hawthorn and they're front runners for a while, Edmund goes onto say Wingard could actually end up at either club. And that he won't lie and say he's absolutely going to Hawthorn, because that's not the situation, but Hawthorn want him...
            Could the reporter put some meat to it, by offering any option that Hawthorn could possibly have to trade with Port Adelaide.

            To me Port are seriously looking at the draftable talent available from South Australia this year and anyway they could maximise their draft picks for a generational talent.

            Hawthorn's pick 14 does not do that.

            Their first rounder next year does not do that.

            What can they offer?
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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #96
              Re: The Chad Thread

              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
              Could the reporter put some meat to it, by offering any option that Hawthorn could possibly have to trade with Port Adelaide.

              To me Port are seriously looking at the draftable talent available from South Australia this year and anyway they could maximise their draft picks for a generational talent.

              Hawthorn's pick 14 does not do that.

              Their first rounder next year does not do that.

              What can they offer?
              Thank God you're also seeing it an obvious side to the story. It's as if Wingard can pick anyone this year and leave. Port need to clear him, and open to keeping him and doing this dance next year. We have pick 6. They have pick 14. That's not even the same ball park as far as a trade goes. Someone who gets paid to write about football trades might like to maybe write about the other side of the trade, not just the nominating. Especially when Hawthorn are not choc full of trade currency.

              * Yes I know players just pick a team and it gets done most of the time, but Port have him under contract and no doubt an offer of pick 6 in the mix of a trade. Plus they jump Adelaide in the draft order, and they get a gun local kid. Hawthorn have to come up with something like this, because unlike many other signings of theirs, Wingard is contracted.
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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45017

                #97
                Re: The Chad Thread

                Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                Could the reporter put some meat to it, by offering any option that Hawthorn could possibly have to trade with Port Adelaide.

                To me Port are seriously looking at the draftable talent available from South Australia this year and anyway they could maximise their draft picks for a generational talent.

                Hawthorn's pick 14 does not do that.

                Their first rounder next year does not do that.

                What can they offer?

                Even if Wingard chooses the Hawks we might be able to get involved in some manner that benefits us

                I also think a bluff of saying we will swap picks with Adelaide won't sit well with Port. Our pick would be very appealing to them
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                • Bulldog Joe
                  Premiership Moderator
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 5615

                  #98
                  Re: The Chad Thread

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  Even if Wingard chooses the Hawks we might be able to get involved in some manner that benefits us

                  I also think a bluff of saying we will swap picks with Adelaide won't sit well with Port. Our pick would be very appealing to them
                  Surely we don't do anything to facilitate a player we would want going to an opposition player.

                  Perhaps they will give us Jack Gunston and Tom Mitchell for pick 6.
                  I just don't see what they could realistically offer that would justify us donating pick 6 to them.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45017

                    #99
                    Re: The Chad Thread

                    Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                    Surely we don't do anything to facilitate a player we would want going to an opposition player.

                    Perhaps they will give us Jack Gunston and Tom Mitchell for pick 6.
                    I just don't see what they could realistically offer that would justify us donating pick 6 to them.
                    Yes it's unlikely however, if a club gets desperate they might overpay for our prized pick.

                    It really depends on who our targets might be.

                    I've mentioned before but I think if we were prepared to trade pick 6 for Wingard I think we could get something back from Port. They have a couple of selections in the 3rd round they might not really need
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                    • Bulldog Joe
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5615

                      Re: The Chad Thread

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Yes it's unlikely however, if a club gets desperate they might overpay for our prized pick.

                      It really depends on who our targets might be.

                      I've mentioned before but I think if we were prepared to trade pick 6 for Wingard I think we could get something back from Port. They have a couple of selections in the 3rd round they might not really need
                      I see the sense of the Wingard trade for pick 6 and yes would agree a late pick or 2 back would help our cause.

                      i just don't see any other reason to trade pick 6, unless we are getting an AA standard player.

                      Hawthorn only have Mitchell or Gunston that would spark my interest.
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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        Re: The Chad Thread

                        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                        I see the sense of the Wingard trade for pick 6 and yes would agree a late pick or 2 back would help our cause.

                        i just don't see any other reason to trade pick 6, unless we are getting an AA standard player.

                        Hawthorn only have Mitchell or Gunston that would spark my interest.
                        I'm with you on this Joe. If Wingard picks Hawks, and we don't give Hawthorn the pick, and we do promise pick 6 to Port and ask them to block Hawthorn unless they do better than our trade offer while Trengove & Bevo try harder again, we still might land him. Port have leverage by virtue of contract, we have more trade currency leverage and we know Wingard is at worst seriously making our club home. That's just the lay of the land. I'd rather block Hawthorn by holding onto the trade high ground at pick 6 and spending the trade period working him and his manager. If it fails do be it. Our position is taking say Rozee. Standing aside to Hawthorn, to lose Rozee, to lose any chance of Wingard, isn't ideal. Gunston isn't gettable, and 14 and a fringe player does nothing for me. Back the play to the very end, Wingard or Rozee both make me happy.
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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3859

                          Re: The Chad Thread

                          Do Adelaide have anyone we would be interested in?

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 15060

                            Re: The Chad Thread

                            Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                            Do Adelaide have anyone we would be interested in?
                            I actually like Mitch McGovern even though we haven't been linked to him.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • The Doctor
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3704

                              Re: The Chad Thread

                              Greg Denham in the Australian today says the Bulldogs leading the chase for Wingard.
                              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: The Chad Thread

                                Originally posted by The Doctor
                                Greg Denham in the Australian today says the Bulldogs leading the chase for Wingard.
                                I hope he's right!!

                                What is he basing his views on?
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