Early Trade Rumours for 2022

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  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 8988

    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    I think this would be a poorly timed and reactive move for a player who has never shown consistency across his career. With JUH, Darcy a returning Bruce and Naughton, I think this would be a trade being made a year too late for the circumstances.
    Plus, (and my biases exposed here), I just cannot bring myself to get enthusiastic about seeking to bring in a player who I firmly remember as being part of the GWS bully crew (along with Cameron and Patton) who took such glee at deriding Tom Boyd during the 2016 Prelim.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67278

      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

      Originally posted by chef
      So when Naughton, Bruce and Marra are all fit and forward where does Lobb fit?
      Who plays second ruck? Bruce?
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      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15406

        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

        The two worst thing about the Lobb trade is not that he is a very inconsistent performer during the H&A season, not that we have to spend $1.5m to get him, not his terrible tattoos

        The two worst things are
        1. We have to give up a 2nd round draft pick for him - we should be hitting the draft
        2. We think he will be more consistent with effort than Josh Schache. He won't be. The only difference is we will be paying more money for the pleasure.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67278

          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

          Originally posted by azabob
          The two worst thing about the Lobb trade is not that he is a very inconsistent performer during the H&A season, not that we have to spend $1.5m to get him, not his terrible tattoos

          The two worst things are
          1. We have to give up a 2nd round draft pick for him - we should be hitting the draft
          2. We think he will be more consistent with effort than Josh Schache. He won't be. The only difference is we will be paying more money for the pleasure.
          I would rather give a 2nd round pick for a quality backman
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14694

            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Who plays second ruck? Bruce?
            Yep, I think thats the most logical step. We've got to think about Darcy too who'll start playing firsts games next season.

            Lobb is not the answer to any of our current worries and it's just a waste of a list spot, salary cap and draft picks. Makes no sense so I'm sure we'll do it.
            The curse is dead.

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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11432

              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

              If Lobb is the answer we are asking the wrong question.
              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15406

                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                Originally posted by Sedat
                If Lobb is the answer we are asking the wrong question.
                Very succinctly put as opposed to my written diarrhea.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45000

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  If Lobb is the answer we are asking the wrong question.
                  Good point, I think he is been given extra credits by some for his ability to ruck.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67278

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    Good point, I think he is been given extra credits by some for his ability to ruck.
                    But haven't woofers been calling out for more ruck support?
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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 45000

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      But haven't woofers been calling out for more ruck support?
                      For sure, and on paper he's a good fit for us. I'm not sure why but I'm still cautious about him.
                      Looking at it a bit closer he's more or less Fremantle's number one goal kicking key forward or maybe some might say he splits that with Taberner.
                      If he comes to us he's more likely the number 3 key forward. Does that work well for us and for Lobb?
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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11432

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        For sure, and on paper he's a good fit for us. I'm not sure why but I'm still cautious about him.
                        Looking at it a bit closer he's more or less Fremantle's number one goal kicking key forward or maybe some might say he splits that with Taberner.
                        If he comes to us he's more likely the number 3 key forward. Does that work well for us and for Lobb?
                        Lobb is like all the English all-rounders from the 90's who were going to be the "next Botham" for their prowess with both bat and ball but ended up being ordinary in both. Lobb is an ordinary and wildly inconsistent option in both key forward and ruck and he will cost a bomb.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Lobb is like all the English all-rounders from the 90's who were going to be the "next Botham" for their prowess with both bat and ball but ended up being ordinary in both. Lobb is an ordinary and wildly inconsistent option in both key forward and ruck and he will cost a bomb.
                          $500,000 pa over 3 years been quoted.

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                          • G-Mo77
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9894

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            Lobb is like all the English all-rounders from the 90's who were going to be the "next Botham" for their prowess with both bat and ball but ended up being ordinary in both. Lobb is an ordinary and wildly inconsistent option in both key forward and ruck and he will cost a bomb.
                            People were saying McStay at $600k over 5 was a good price. 3 years, $500k seems like a good deal to me.

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                            • The Doctor
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3704

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                              Did anyone see Lobb play against Melbourne recently? He ripped them to pieces.

                              Our draft picks for this year based on our current ladder position are 10, 28, 37 & 64

                              He would basically replace Martin on the list.

                              If 37 gets it done surely that's good business.
                              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                              • soupman
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 5131

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                A key defender make more sense unless we think Naughton to the back line is worth considering.
                                Well this is probably never happening again ever. We don't even send him back occasionally to help stem the tide, and we shouldn't he's one of the best key forwards in the league and nearly winning the coleman despite being a terrible set shot and only being 22 (wow).


                                Originally posted by chef
                                Lobb is not the answer to any of our current worries and it's just a waste of a list spot, salary cap and draft picks. Makes no sense so I'm sure we'll do it.
                                What do you mean Lobb isn't the answer to any of our worries? Half the discussion on here for the last 3 years is how we need both a viable second ruck option and another target to help take the pressure of Naughton. He is clearly the answer to two of our worries.

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                I think that is the point, it closes down options for the younger forward like Marra and Darcy although we probably have the same problem when Hannan returns
                                Originally posted by chef
                                Yep, I think thats the most logical step. We've got to think about Darcy too who'll start playing firsts games next season.
                                Worrying about him holding back Darcy and JUH is fine I guess, but there will 100% be a spot for them if they are good enough, and we can't simultaneously bemoan how bad our forward line is and how its lacking quality options while turning back a proven established forward because we want to pump games into two players that have yet to show they can deliver at the level.

                                He's not even that expensive if that contract is true.
                                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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