Early Trade Rumours for 2022

[GVGjr]

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Is it the only way to lure him?

Hope they've done some research on Tom Boyd, I'd assume so with Boyd and Murphy there.

It's a lot of pressure for a young kid.

I suspect if he really wants to head home a good deal rather than a maximum type deal should be enough.
Ruck man get injured, this year proves that, so long term deals isn't something that I would offer.
The other thing is has he really shown enough to suggest he's worth the money that's being mentioned?
There will be a lot of focus on him next year if the he makes the move, it will be interesting to see if he has the form and the maturity to handle it.

[Grantysghost]

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I suspect if he really wants to head home a good deal rather than a maximum type deal should be enough.
Ruck man get injured, this year proves that, so long term deals isn't something that I would offer.
The other thing is has he really shown enough to suggest he's worth the money that's being mentioned?
There will be a lot of focus on him next year if the he makes the move, it will be interesting to see if he has the form and the maturity to handle it.

Re whether he's shown enough, probably not it's a bit of an investment in potential that's for sure.
I think he's going to be a star though so I'm ok with it talent wise.

[Mofra]

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Jackson has shown more at AFL level than Boyd did when we chased him.

He'll get paid less than Boyd. Given the way Freo's rebuild had been tracking the past few years I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

You have to meet 95% of the cap at a minimum and of they are paying him $800k as rumoured, that's only $50k more than Lobb who's likely to leave.

[Bornadog]

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Jackson has shown more at AFL level than Boyd did when we chased him.

He'll get paid less than Boyd. Given the way Freo's rebuild had been tracking the past few years I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

You have to meet 95% of the cap at a minimum and of they are paying him $800k as rumoured, that's only $50k more than Lobb who's likely to leave.

Will they continue to pay part of Lobb's salary if he leaves?

[azabob]

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Will they continue to pay part of Lobb's salary if he leaves?

Maybe the new club Lobb goes to will spread the $750 over the life of the deal?

[Happy Days]

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Damn we might get Lobb for a 9th rounder.

[Grantysghost]

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Jackson has shown more at AFL level than Boyd did when we chased him.

He'll get paid less than Boyd. Given the way Freo's rebuild had been tracking the past few years I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

You have to meet 95% of the cap at a minimum and of they are paying him $800k as rumoured, that's only $50k more than Lobb who's likely to leave.

For sure, it's more that amount of pressure on a young kid.

[GVGjr]

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Jackson has shown more at AFL level than Boyd did when we chased him.

He'll get paid less than Boyd. Given the way Freo's rebuild had been tracking the past few years I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

You have to meet 95% of the cap at a minimum and of they are paying him $800k as rumoured, that's only $50k more than Lobb who's likely to leave.

Jackson has been at Melbourne for 3 seasons, Boyd just one at GWS so yes he's shown a lot more.
Had Boyd dug in on extracting as much out of his contract from us we would have struggled for a couple of seasons so the point I'm trying to make is that if it's a long term deal for Jackson with the big money that is being mentioned I think it's a risk for a ruckman.

We lost a coach and a captain and the club needed a PR win which is why we went chips in for Boyd, I don't think Freo needs Jackson to that extent given how they're performing.

[Sedat]

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Sounds like Lobb is a big chance to come to the kennel next year. How would his skill set have helped us on a night like tonight? It's on record that the club will never move Naughton away from key forward, so Lobb replaces Schache tonight. He can't play down back and he is a so-so stoppage ruckman (so is English to be fair). Keath and Gardner are first and second choice key defenders, with only Cordy as backup - to say we are thin down back is an understatement.

I maintain we are not asking the right questions if Lobb is the answer.

[Bornadog]

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Sounds like Lobb is a big chance to come to the kennel next year. How would his skill set have helped us on a night like tonight? It's on record that the club will never move Naughton away from key forward, so Lobb replaces Schache tonight. He can't play down back and he is a so-so stoppage ruckman (so is English to be fair). Keath and Gardner are first and second choice key defenders, with only Cordy as backup - to say we are thin down back is an understatement.

I maintain we are not asking the right questions if Lobb is the answer.

We need a second ruck, so he would solve that. BUT, we need quality tall backman, so we need to chase both roles.

I feel like Keath is cooked and Gardner is just so, so.

[Sedat]

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We need a second ruck, so he would solve that. BUT, we need quality tall backman, so we need to chase both roles.

I feel like Keath is cooked and Gardner is just so, so.

He is basically identical to English - I'd rather a competitive stoppage animal in the Nankervis mould to compliment English and his elite around the ground work and ability to clunk a mark up forward, rather than getting a 29yo English clone.

Agree wholeheartedly that we need to urgently address our key defensive stocks - to be honest, we should have addressed this 2-3 years ago (we did with Keath but we needed more).

[GVGjr]

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Saints have apparently expressed some interest in Lobb.

[jeemak]

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Sounds like Lobb is a big chance to come to the kennel next year. How would his skill set have helped us on a night like tonight? It's on record that the club will never move Naughton away from key forward, so Lobb replaces Schache tonight. He can't play down back and he is a so-so stoppage ruckman (so is English to be fair). Keath and Gardner are first and second choice key defenders, with only Cordy as backup - to say we are thin down back is an understatement.

I maintain we are not asking the right questions if Lobb is the answer.

He replaces Schache.

Schache languishes in the twos until we move him on or someone picks him up on the cheap. Or his career finishes.

Lobb is a massive upgrade on Schache. And while I rate both of them I think the ceiling Lobb has already shown is more than what Schache will reach.

I actually didn't think Schache was bad at times tonight, but if he's not going to hit is "one wood" properly (which is a silly saying given it's by far the hardest club to hit in the bag consistently) and take his chances with kicks at goal that suit his skill set then what's the point of him being there?

[The Underdog]

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The more I think about Lobb, the more I hate it. A player of historically conditional effort and patchy output in a position that may not even be one of our top 3 or 4 needs.

[Bulldog4life]

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We need a second ruck, so he would solve that. BUT, we need quality tall backman, so we need to chase both roles.

I feel like Keath is cooked and Gardner is just so, so.

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