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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Originally posted by hujsh
    Legit who knows what's going on up there. Did they just want to make sure no one leaves?
    It’s like not a single person up there I’d responsible for managing the salary cap. It happens every year.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67288

      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      I get that, but would you effectively buy Pick 7 that is dependent on us absorbing $1.5M?

      Or is that too much cash?
      I would - then we would have a a good basket to really set up for the future with some early draft picks.
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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

        Originally posted by bornadog
        I would - then we would have a a good basket to really set up for the future with some early draft picks.
        Dunkley 2 x Firsts:

        2022: Picks 7, 11, 15, 29, 37, 65 (& Hunter pick), Jones free as an UFA, Bowes as the modern Lachie Veale
        2023: 2 x Firsts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

        That’s a solid refresh of the list, even if a few picks are traded out for players. $1.5M is a lot of cash, but that’s five first round kids potentially hitting their straps when Marra & Darcy are launching off, while our mids still have a solid A game.

        Interesting investment decision…
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67288

          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Dunkley 2 x Firsts:

          2022: Picks 7, 11, 15, 29, 37, 65 (& Hunter pick), Jones free as an UFA, Bowes as the modern Lachie Veale
          2023: 2 x Firsts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

          That’s a solid refresh of the list, even if a few picks are traded out for players. $1.5M is a lot of cash, but that’s five first round kids potentially hitting their straps when Marra & Darcy are launching off, while our mids still have a solid A game.

          Interesting investment decision…
          this would be a dream - make it happen

          With the last two years Pick 1 and Pick two, we should play finals for many years to come. We took a risk by paying Boyd $1 million a year and we won a premiership, so $1.5 million is nothing
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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

            Originally posted by bornadog
            this would be a dream - make it happen
            How would the media and other players react I wonder?

            Last time we bought Tom Boyd, the dollars were always brought up. $1.5M in a potential VFL player is a big target on our back.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45001

              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Dunkley 2 x Firsts:

              2022: Picks 7, 11, 15, 29, 37, 65 (& Hunter pick), Jones free as an UFA, Bowes as the modern Lachie Veale
              2023: 2 x Firsts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

              That’s a solid refresh of the list, even if a few picks are traded out for players. $1.5M is a lot of cash, but that’s five first round kids potentially hitting their straps when Marra & Darcy are launching off, while our mids still have a solid A game.

              Interesting investment decision…
              And we might have two father sons to accommodate in 2023 to getting some additional capital there would be handy

              Massive investment decision.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • MrMahatma
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 3974

                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                I don't know much about Bowes. Would he be worth, say, a 2nd rounder if just traded and on market rate $? Or is he completely useless?

                The "pay $1.5m for pick 7" is only the case if he's useless.

                I think no matter what, we need a ruck this year, and we're getting Jones as KPD. We COULD, I guess, go into next season with that set up so long as the ruck we bring in is physically ready and better than Martin, who surely retires. If we do that, then maybe we try and get that pick 7 and get the best KPD in the draft?

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67288

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  How would the media and other players react I wonder?

                  Last time we bought Tom Boyd, the dollars were always brought up. $1.5M in a potential VFL player is a big target on our back.
                  The media won't care, these deals are constantly done now.

                  He is better than a VFL player. Last year he averaged 21 disposals and this year a bit lower, but had injury concerns.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45001

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                    Just listening to Sanderson and he is talking about Harry Cunningham not being able to force his was back into the Sydney side.
                    Weightman told me last year he was the hardest opponent he played against.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 45001

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                      Originally posted by MrMahatma
                      I don't know much about Bowes. Would he be worth, say, a 2nd rounder if just traded and on market rate $? Or is he completely useless?

                      The "pay $1.5m for pick 7" is only the case if he's useless.

                      I think no matter what, we need a ruck this year, and we're getting Jones as KPD. We COULD, I guess, go into next season with that set up so long as the ruck we bring in is physically ready and better than Martin, who surely retires. If we do that, then maybe we try and get that pick 7 and get the best KPD in the draft?
                      If he was just on the market without a big contract to absorb I'd say he would be worth a late 2nd but more likely a 3rd rounder for the right club.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5718

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                        Originally posted by MrMahatma
                        I don't know much about Bowes. Would he be worth, say, a 2nd rounder if just traded and on market rate $? Or is he completely useless?

                        The "pay $1.5m for pick 7" is only the case if he's useless.
                        I like him. Not dissimilar to Hunter Clark, in that he has plenty of talent, has played good AFL footy, but has battled traumatic (i.e. not soft tissue) injuries for the last couple of years. I think a 20-30 pick would be his trade value on his own, but if he was at a competent club they might ask for more.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          The media won't care, these deals are constantly done now.

                          He is better than a VFL player. Last year he averaged 21 disposals and this year a bit lower, but had injury concerns.
                          He wants to transition to permanent midfielder. I’m not sure if he’s best 22 as a mid. But with Dunkley out, and a wing potentially opened up, maybe there’s an opportunity for him to cement a spot in the middle of the ground.

                          He’s better than Lockie Veale that’s for sure.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • jazzadogs
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5718

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Just listening to Sanderson and he is talking about Harry Cunningham not being able to force his was back into the Sydney side.
                            Weightman told me last year he was the hardest opponent he played against.
                            Back pocket option? I think I read he is 29?

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45001

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                              Originally posted by jazzadogs
                              I like him. Not dissimilar to Hunter Clark, in that he has plenty of talent, has played good AFL footy, but has battled traumatic (i.e. not soft tissue) injuries for the last couple of years. I think a 20-30 pick would be his trade value on his own, but if he was at a competent club they might ask for more.
                              He could be a bit better at Marvel as well.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 67288

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                                Originally posted by jazzadogs
                                Back pocket option? I think I read he is 29?
                                Will be in December
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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