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  • The bulldog tragician
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2013
    • 1951

    #46
    Re: LOL Aints

    Originally posted by macca
    I doubt Bevo would move to Saints regardless whaT they offer. BEVO has the board, in an org with good management and admin, a grrst place 5k work vs toxic place od the saints . Why would he move ?

    His taken is to 2 GF with 1 flag, thats in top echelon of coaches

    I be very very disappointed if he lives. He seems a good culture builder and wants to create legacy.
    This seems harsh
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    • Mitcha
      Draftee
      • Mar 2009
      • 676

      #47
      Re: LOL Aints

      Saints have little choice other than to go down the path of a first time senior coach. For a club that survives on massive AFL handouts and reportedly still ten million dollars in debt the AFEL surely would not look too kindly on big dollar offers to Lyon, Cameron or Bevo when the Saints already have two years of payment now owing to Ratten. Yze has to be favourite (and a bit cheaper).

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      • macca
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2007
        • 2350

        #48
        Re: LOL Aints

        Originally posted by The bulldog tragician

        This seems harsh
        Great pickup
        My typing gets worst with auto correct activated nowadays

        I have made the amendment
        Thanks bt

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65579

          #49
          Re: LOL Aints

          Originally posted by Mitcha
          Saints have little choice other than to go down the path of a first time senior coach. For a club that survives on massive AFL handouts and reportedly still ten million dollars in debt the AFEL surely would not look too kindly on big dollar offers to Lyon, Cameron or Bevo when the Saints already have two years of payment now owing to Ratten. Yze has to be favourite (and a bit cheaper).
          According to The Age, the payout may only be 6 months, due to a clause in his contract
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • macca
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2007
            • 2350

            #50
            Re: LOL Aints

            Originally posted by Mitcha
            Saints have little choice other than to go down the path of a first time senior coach. For a club that survives on massive AFL handouts and reportedly still ten million dollars in debt the AFEL surely would not look too kindly on big dollar offers to Lyon, Cameron or Bevo when the Saints already have two years of payment now owing to Ratten. Yze has to be favourite (and a bit cheaper).
            I would love it if LYon gets appointed , it would be full circle irony

            The whole Carlton debacle where he did not want to go through the process but was semi-interested in the job became a side show

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 65579

              #51
              Re: LOL Aints

              Originally posted by macca
              I would love it if LYon gets appointed , it would be full circle irony

              The whole Carlton debacle where he did not want to go through the process but was semi-interested in the job became a side show
              Do you mean Essendon?
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • Twodogs
                Administrator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27645

                #52
                Re: LOL Aints

                Originally posted by bornadog
                According to The Age, the payout may only be 6 months, due to a clause in his contract
                I think that may be an AFL imposed rule in all soft cap situations. I'm sure I read somewhere that after Hawthorn had to pay Clarkson a year's salary to sit on the couch they bought in a rule that a senior coach only gets six months of his contract payed out no matter how long he has left.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65579

                  #53
                  Re: LOL Aints

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  I think that may be an AFL imposed rule in all soft cap situations. I'm sure I read somewhere that after Hawthorn had to pay Clarkson a year's salary to sit on the couch they bought in a rule that a senior coach only gets six months of his contract payed out no matter how long he has left.
                  Yes I think you are right
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                  • macca
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2350

                    #54
                    Re: LOL Aints

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    I think that may be an AFL imposed rule in all soft cap situations. I'm sure I read somewhere that after Hawthorn had to pay Clarkson a year's salary to sit on the couch they bought in a rule that a senior coach only gets six months of his contract payed out no matter how long he has left.
                    Twodogs your memory is amazing

                    Is this now known as the Bench Clarkson rule ?

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                    • Twodogs
                      Administrator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27645

                      #55
                      Re: LOL Aints

                      Originally posted by macca
                      Twodogs your memory is amazing

                      Is this now known as the Bench Clarkson rule ?
                      Sounds like a good name to me
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 43881

                        #56
                        Re: LOL Aints

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        According to The Age, the payout may only be 6 months, due to a clause in his contract
                        That is an appalling outcome after signing a 2 year deal. While understanding he would have signed off on that when he agreed to the contract at the very least he should get a 12 month payout.
                        It's hard to understand why the Saints appear to have jumped back on to the Ryan Lyon bandwagon given the way he left them to go to Fremantle.
                        There has to be a to more to this than what they have shared so far.
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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13119

                          #57
                          Re: LOL Aints

                          Wasn't Ratten at Hawthorn during the Pagan / Clarkson era? Is there a chance Ratten's name has come up in the AFL investigation?

                          Perhaps the Saints have been tipped off. Maybe clutching at straws but I can't explain why he would be sacked so suddenly.
                          Last edited by 1eyedog; 17-10-2022, 09:03 AM. Reason: Spelling correction
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 43881

                            #58
                            Re: LOL Aints

                            Originally posted by 1eyedog
                            Wasn't Ratten at Hawthorn during the Pagan / Clarkson era? Is there a chance Ratten's name has come up in the AFL investigation?

                            Perhaps the Saints have been tipped off. Maybe clutching at straws but I can't explain why he would be sacked so suddenly.
                            It's one of the reasons being speculated on but you would have to wonder why the Saints have jumped earlier than North or Brisbane have?

                            Seems to have been a more internal reason than anything else.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • Scorlibo
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3063

                              #59
                              Re: LOL Aints

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              I think that may be an AFL imposed rule in all soft cap situations. I'm sure I read somewhere that after Hawthorn had to pay Clarkson a year's salary to sit on the couch they bought in a rule that a senior coach only gets six months of his contract payed out no matter how long he has left.
                              How ridiculous is that. The Clubs get the full term of the contract as security while the individuals only ever get 6 months.
                              'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11720

                                #60
                                Re: LOL Aints

                                Originally posted by Scorlibo
                                How ridiculous is that. The Clubs get the full term of the contract as security while the individuals only ever get 6 months.
                                I think a more responsible change would be that clubs still have to pay out the remainder of the coach's contract but only 6 months count towards the soft cap. Gives the coaches financial security without ruining the clubs off field cap if that coach needs to be let go.
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