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  • Twodogs
    Administrator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27645

    #61
    Re: LOL Aints

    Originally posted by Scorlibo
    How ridiculous is that. The Clubs get the full term of the contract as security while the individuals only ever get 6 months.
    Yeah. I'm a bit lost as to why contracts in AFL world bear no real resemblance to contracts in the real world. I don't understand why if your contract stipulates a certain time period and you don't stand down of your own accord why the other party (the club) get out of their side of the contract.

    There must be some sort of AFL contract that you sign as well as the club contract.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7240

      #62
      Re: LOL Aints

      Originally posted by Scorlibo
      How ridiculous is that. The Clubs get the full term of the contract as security while the individuals only ever get 6 months.
      Well...don't sign the contract if you don't like the clause.

      I am happy to bash the Saints but if Ratten signed a contract that has only a 6-month exit payout, well, he must have been happy with that.
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • Topdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7457

        #63
        Re: LOL Aints

        Originally posted by mjp
        Well...don't sign the contract if you don't like the clause.

        I am happy to bash the Saints but if Ratten signed a contract that has only a 6-month exit payout, well, he must have been happy with that.
        Its an AFL wide clause, coaches cant get around it (apparently)

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43876

          #64
          Re: LOL Aints

          Originally posted by mjp
          Well...don't sign the contract if you don't like the clause.

          I am happy to bash the Saints but if Ratten signed a contract that has only a 6-month exit payout, well, he must have been happy with that.
          I get what you are saying but after a strong start to the season and the contract extension mid season I think any reasonable person would suggest that was very unlikely to have been enacted on so early.
          Not sure he had much of a choice either because apparently it's a rule if the AFL is funding a club like they are the Saints it's on their insistence that the 6 month rule applies.
          He signed in good faith and it appears the Saints and the AFL are taking advantage of the loophole which I suppose is fair enough but in some ways it doesn't respect the coach.
          It's a tough old business.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15095

            #65
            Re: LOL Aints

            If it is an AFL ruling it is total horse sh*t and the coaches association should not stand for it.

            Why should Brett Ratten be punished because of St.Kilda's poor management?
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 65579

              #66
              Re: LOL Aints

              Originally posted by Topdog
              Its an AFL wide clause, coaches cant get around it (apparently)
              The only way they can get around it if it breached employment law. No contract is above the law.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • Stevo
                Senior Player
                • May 2008
                • 1003

                #67
                Re: LOL Aints

                Originally posted by azabob
                If it is an AFL ruling it is total horse sh*t and the coaches association should not stand for it.

                Why should Brett Ratten be punished because of St.Kilda's poor management?
                Good call.
                He didn't get the chance to put his name forward for North, GWS or Essendon roles in fact he didn't get his chance to apply for assistant coaching roles all because the Saints gave him assurances they were supporting him but then changed their minds.
                Unless there is a compelling reason for his sacking he should receive closer to a 12 month payout.
                I wonder if he will end up with Clarko at North?

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                • Bulldog4life
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 9607

                  #68
                  Re: LOL Aints

                  Grant Thomas pushing the Bevo come home button again.


                  Grant Thomas
                  @Thomo_Grant
                  They all come home eventually……Bevo too

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 43876

                    #69
                    Re: LOL Aints

                    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                    Grant Thomas pushing the Bevo come home button again.


                    Grant Thomas
                    @Thomo_Grant
                    They all come home eventually……Bevo too
                    The media and a lot of the fans really want Lyon. I wonder if that will sway the Saints interview approach because I don't think Lyon wants to go into a head to head battle unless he is 90% confident of a win.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • Bulldog4life
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 9607

                      #70
                      Re: LOL Aints

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      The media and a lot of the fans really want Lyon. I wonder if that will sway the Saints interview approach because I don't think Lyon wants to go into a head to head battle unless he is 90% confident of a win.
                      Interesting times ahead. It didn't end well the first time Ross was Boss.

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 17821

                        #71
                        Re: LOL Aints

                        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                        Grant Thomas pushing the Bevo come home button again.


                        Grant Thomas
                        @Thomo_Grant
                        They all come home eventually……Bevo too
                        *!*!*!*! off GT, Bevo is home.
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • Twodogs
                          Administrator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27645

                          #72
                          Re: LOL Aints

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          *!*!*!*! off GT, Bevo is home.
                          Yeah, what's with this "Bevo's home is St Kilda" bullshit?

                          His first club was Melbourne. Yes his dad worked at St Kilda but who cares? He isn't Bevo. If you want to count that then his grandfather Jack Beveridge played in 4 Collingwood premierships and was a member of The 1927-1930 Machine. St Kilda was the third club he played with. He played finals with Melbourne and Footscray. Coached us to a flag.

                          Spiritual home my arse.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65579

                            #73
                            Re: LOL Aints

                            Tom Browne (yeah I know ), says Lyon has the job after Lyon had a third meeting, this time with the Board
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              #74
                              Re: LOL Aints

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Tom Browne (yeah I know ), says Lyon has the job after Lyon had a third meeting, this time with the Board
                              So Bevo’s returning home to St Kilda to replace Brendan Lade?
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 43876

                                #75
                                Re: LOL Aints

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                So Bevo’s returning home to St Kilda to replace Brendan Lade?
                                Well the Saints have acted quickly deciding not to go through a comprehensive interview process and appoint Lyon.
                                We are probably lucky that they didn't get Bevo in for a chat.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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