LOL Aints

[bulldogtragic]

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Well the Saints have acted quickly deciding not to go through a comprehensive interview process and appoint Lyon.
We are probably lucky that they didn't get Bevo in for a chat.

After the way Plough left, like Lyon did, I would never accept the club re-appointing him. I can’t believe they were left at the chapel in the wedding dress, while their groom was banging their sister and called the wedding off and left you with all the kids. Now they clutch to his memory of playing finals like a piece of broken glass by taking him back (ignoring the way he walked out and left them high and dry), because why, he’s a changed man?

His quitting took them from Grand Finals to a decade of abyss with rotating sacked coaches, that impacted their on field performance, which in turns impacts their marketability and being in $10M debt. He lit the fuse and now he’s the one pick up the pieces. Bullshit. Have some self respect Aints.

[GVGjr]

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He's still probably a very good coach but you have to wonder if can adapt to a constantly changing AFL game.
I wonder if he will give Marc Webb a call because they did work together for a long time. I also wonder if Zac Dawson will come out of retirement.

[MrMahatma]

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After the way Plough left, like Lyon did, I would never accept the club re-appointing him. I can’t believe they were left at the chapel in the wedding dress, while their groom was banging their sister and called the wedding off and left you with all the kids. Now they clutch to his memory of playing finals like a piece of broken glass by taking him back (ignoring the way he walked out and left them high and dry), because why, he’s a changed man?

His quitting took them from Grand Finals to a decade of abyss with rotating sacked coaches, that impacted their on field performance, which in turns impacts their marketability and being in $10M debt. He lit the fuse and now he’s the one pick up the pieces. Bullshit. Have some self respect Aints.

To be fair, it’s not his fault the coaches that followed him were busts.

[bulldogtragic]

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To be fair, it’s not his fault the coaches that followed him were busts.

If Lyon was loyal to them, we’d never know. I rate loyalty. Aints, not so much it seems.

[Mofra]

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His quitting took them from Grand Finals to a decade of abyss with rotating sacked coaches, that impacted their on field performance, which in turns impacts their marketability and being in $10M debt. He lit the fuse and now he’s the one pick up the pieces. Bullshit. Have some self respect Aints.

They cap was a mess though - they went all in for 2010 & 2011, came damn close, but kicked the cap can down the road for so long it took them years to get the cap back in order, and they had to lose Dal Santo, Ball & Goddard in the process.

Now they're back to square one after some draft busts - primarily, McCartin (over Petracca), Billings (over Bont), Coffield and Hunter Clark (over Naughton) and trading the farm for Brad Hill.

[Mofra]

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If Lyon was loyal to them, we’d never know. I rate loyalty. Aints, not so much it seems.

The core of their list (Gresham & King aside) is traded in, not drafted. I don't think they'd have a leg to stand on if they preached loyalty.

[GVGjr]

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They cap was a mess though - they went all in for 2010 & 2011, came damn close, but kicked the cap can down the road for so long it took them years to get the cap back in order, and they had to lose Dal Santo, Ball & Goddard in the process.

Now they're back to square one after some draft busts - primarily, McCartin (over Petracca), Billings (over Bont), Coffield and Hunter Clark (over Naughton) and trading the farm for Brad Hill.

They never quite press the levers at the right time and appear to be a club that isn't professional in enough areas of the footy department.

[comrade]

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Their list is crap and weighted far too heavily towards players aged 27y+. They’ve tried to trade their way to a competitive list and it’s lead them on a path to mediocrity. The kids on their list are ok but nothing special. And now they have Zaine

I’m actually keen to see what Lyon can do with it because he doesn’t have anywhere near the quality he had access to his first go round at the Saints. At best they have some Dal Santo/Montagna level talent (Steele/Gresham etc) and one player with potential to ascend (King) but nothing like Roo, Goddard, Hayes, Tiprat.

My guess is they’ll get a bounce over the next few seasons but Lyon isn’t a coach for the long haul so they need success within the next 5 years. Do they have the players for it? Not for me.

They’ve taken the easy path imo and it won’t end well.

[Sedat]

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They will cop a lot of heat and rightly so for the disgusting way they hung Ratten out to dry, but Lyon is a serious coach. I'm a bit dirty that they now have an above-average match-day coach.

[GVGjr]

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They will cop a lot of heat and rightly so for the disgusting way they hung Ratten out to dry, but Lyon is a serious coach. I'm a bit dirty that they now have an above-average match-day coach.

I think a lot of their supporters think the 6 months payout is a poor reflection on how he was treated. Surely they could lift that by another 3 months.

As comrade pointed out Lyon doesn't quite have the same standard of list as he previously enjoyed there. It will be interesting to see how he goes but yes he's a quality coach.
I think they're also trying to poach Jason Cripps from Port to head up their list management.

[Bornadog]

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I think a lot of their supporters think the 6 months payout is a poor reflection on how he was treated. Surely they could lift that by another 3 months.

As comrade pointed out Lyon doesn't quite have the same standard of list as he previously enjoyed there. It will be interesting to see how he goes but yes he's a quality coach.
I think they're also trying to poach Jason Cripps from Port to head up their list management.

Goddard has also put his hand up to be an assistant. Not sure if that will happen

[Twodogs]

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Their list is crap and weighted far too heavily towards players aged 27y+. They’ve tried to trade their way to a competitive list and it’s lead them on a path to mediocrity. The kids on their list are ok but nothing special. And now they have Zaine

I’m actually keen to see what Lyon can do with it because he doesn’t have anywhere near the quality he had access to his first go round at the Saints. At best they have some Dal Santo/Montagna level talent (Steele/Gresham etc) and one player with potential to ascend (King) but nothing like Roo, Goddard, Hayes, Tiprat.

My guess is they’ll get a bounce over the next few seasons but Lyon isn’t a coach for the long haul so they need success within the next 5 years. Do they have the players for it? Not for me.

They’ve taken the easy path imo and it won’t end well.

Ball.

[mjp]

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Lyon is a brilliant coach.

I get what everyone is saying but this sucks for the rest of the competition. Ratten is a GOOD coach...Lyon is elite. He will get them winning games...

[GVGjr]

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Lyon is a brilliant coach.

I get what everyone is saying but this sucks for the rest of the competition. Ratten is a GOOD coach...Lyon is elite. He will get them winning games...

After a number of years in the media, how long will it be before he lights up a lazy journo?

No question he is an excellent coach.

[KT31]

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Grant Thomas pushing the Bevo come home button again.


Grant Thomas
@Thomo_Grant
They all come home eventually……Bevo too

Raphael Clarke may think different.

Over 200 games combined games as Coach and player with us, including a Flag and another Big Dance appearance.

Why would the Knob Thomas even suggest the Saints are his home?