Early Trade Rumours 2023

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  • Axe Man
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 10879

    #76
    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Bloody internet - his wiki page is out
    I stick with official club pages because heights can be all over the place from other sources.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65601

      #77
      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

      Originally posted by Axe Man
      I stick with official club pages because heights can be all over the place from other sources.
      I normally do, but was lazy
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • Dogs 24/7
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 1164

        #78
        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

        Originally posted by bornadog
        you know he is only 187cm
        Does a few cm here or there really matter that much? Can he play is the biggest consideration.

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21417

          #79
          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

          Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
          Does a few cm here or there really matter that much? Can he play is the biggest consideration.
          Not to BAD in his heart of hearts.....height is just a segue to weight and fat shaming.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65601

            #80
            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

            Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
            Does a few cm here or there really matter that much? Can he play is the biggest consideration.
            Depends which player you are matched up on.

            Play on King brothers, Lynch or Hawkins and cms do matter.

            Originally posted by jeemak
            Not to BAD in his heart of hearts.....height is just a segue to weight and fat shaming.
            Ha ha you caught me out
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Dogs 24/7
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2007
              • 1164

              #81
              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Depends which player you are matched up on.

              Play on King brothers, Lynch or Hawkins and cms do matter.
              Is there even a remote chance we might be interested in recruiting Tom Doedee to match up against the bigger forwards?
              Are we still talking about Doedee?
              This means that someone like Caleb Daniel would never arrive at the Kennel and if he did he couldnt play anywhere other than as a forward.

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              • Vred
                Senior Player
                • Nov 2018
                • 1293

                #82
                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                I got a mate who's a recruiter/talent scout at another AFL club, this is all according to him, as always, grain of salt:
                -Doedee was 50/50 on either us or Geelong, Geelong won out (no surprise there)
                -Dogs are one of several clubs seeing if they can pry Barass out, the rumours of us going after him last off season are true, we asked the question.
                -Dogs have also asked the question of Liam Ryan and Cam Rayner, sounds like we're looking for someone who can play that HFF/Midfield role
                -From what he can gather from rumours floating around the industry, we are after a speedy mid, a winger and another developed defender, and are happy to use our draft currency to get it, Dogs very much see themselves ''in the window''.
                -Eagles are more interested in Naughton than English, they see him as their future number 1 KPD, want him sooner than later and will wait for the right time to get him.
                -English wants his next contract to be his last
                -Neither SA club very interested in Williams hence the wanting to stay on with us statement released this week.
                -Webb is back to WA at the end of this season, no contract extensions have been offered to Bubba or Spang, could see all 3 of them changed over this off season.
                -Our salary cap is in a really good space, we have cash to splash and plan to throw it at what we need to get it through the door. He 100% confirmed to me that Hunters contract was re-negotiated and we aren't picking up a cent of it, coupled with the Dunkley money, Bruce/Keath front ended contracts winding down, JJ re-signed on supposedly half of what he was on, it's been managed really well. He also said that Naughton has been the second highest paid at our club for awhile now, just behind Bont.

                Personally, no idea who to target to fix our list needs, there's a few players we could go after to fix holes but until our coaching is taken care of I don't care, that's the biggest problem for me, not the list.
                [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  #83
                  Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                  Some interesting discussion in that.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8856

                    #84
                    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Some interesting discussion in that.
                    Tiem to do what you do best BT. crunch those numbers.

                    How do we get Barrass and or a Liam Ryan, Rayner type, maybe Lohmann is more an option? and keep enough capital to get Croft at draft time.
                    Also I want my cake and eat it too. No trade on Naughts or English!

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      #85
                      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                      Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                      Tiem to do what you do best BT. crunch those numbers.

                      How do we get Barrass and or a Liam Ryan, Rayner type, maybe Lohmann is more an option? and keep enough capital to get Croft at draft time.
                      Also I want my cake and eat it too. No trade on Naughts or English!
                      To get Pick 1 (Harley), Barass, Rayner & Lohmann plus Croft - I’d happily hand over the firsts, a Future something & Naughton.

                      Dogs: Pick 1, Pick 19 & 53 (Port), Barass - for - Naughton, Pick 12 & 16 & 34

                      Dogs: Rayner, Lohmann, Pick 26 (GWS) - for - Pick 19 & F1

                      Dogs: Picks 26 & 53 to secure Croft (as high as about pick 12 if needed)

                      Dogs: Cash for Ben McKay as FA if we wanted a full back


                      But that ain’t never, ever, ever, ever happening. But if we are prepared to splash picks and cash, then it might be a fun off season.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        #86
                        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                        More over I find the ‘we are still in our window’ most interesting. I think it’s time for a rebuild, but clearly (if true) the club thinks we are a few tweaks and a few new players off a flag. I’m not so sure.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7243

                          #87
                          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          But that ain’t never, ever, ever, ever happening. But if we are prepared to splash picks and cash, then it might be a fun off season.
                          Thoughts on Bergman?
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21417

                            #88
                            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                            Originally posted by Vred
                            -Our salary cap is in a really good space, we have cash to splash and plan to throw it at what we need to get it through the door. He 100% confirmed to me that Hunters contract was re-negotiated and we aren't picking up a cent of it, coupled with the Dunkley money, Bruce/Keath front ended contracts winding down, JJ re-signed on supposedly half of what he was on, it's been managed really well. He also said that Naughton has been the second highest paid at our club for awhile now, just behind Bont.
                            .
                            Add the Hurley money to this and we should be big spenders!
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              #89
                              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                              Originally posted by mjp
                              Thoughts on Bergman?
                              I like him personally. My musings with Gary yesterday were if a Croft bid interferes with the Brisbane first (circa pick 15-17 after matched bids) it might pay to trade that out for someone or something (as one on many options). That seems to be around a few early phantoms/power rankings. So I’d look at who we might get that is still young enough but talented enough to improve the list with a late first rounder. I’d think Bergman would be on the short list.

                              If you had to move on the Lions 1st for strategic reasons hypothetically, who would you like to realistically acquire with the pick?
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15200

                                #90
                                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                More over I find the ?we are still in our window? most interesting. I think it?s time for a rebuild, but clearly (if true) the club thinks we are a few tweaks and a few new players off a flag. I?m not so sure.
                                There isn't too many holes in the team to get us up at the pointy of the ladder and from the players mentioned, or the type of player mentioned it seems we know where those gaps are.

                                If only there was a fix for shoddy goal-kicking!

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