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Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
Guess we can scratch Bergman from the shopping list
Port Adelaide young gun Miles Bergman is set to reject significant interest from his home state of Victoria and stay at Alberton.
The 21-year-old, whose contract expires at the end of the season, is believed to have agreed to a two-year extension at the Power.
Rival clubs keen on the half-back, such as St Kilda and Essendon, have been told he is remaining with Port.
Finer details of the new deal are being completed and an announcement is expected on Thursday.
Bergman has blossomed this season amid the club’s 11-game winning streak, playing all 14 matches, mostly at half-back.
He is averaging 14.4 disposals, 3.5 rebound 50s, 2.4 inside 50s and 5.7 contested possessions for the second-placed Power.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
Just reading that if a club was prepared to offer Ben McKay 800K a season North could potentially get pick 3 as compensation.
That's crazy compensation but a cashed up club might be able to swing another deal with them.
BT, we need you to look at some scenario's there.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
We could never try to rig the system?
But if we did that. The easiest way would be a Draft Points trade.
They have Port?s First, Lions Third and Hawks Fourth rounders on top of theirs. Depending on where we finish, those teams finish and where Croft goes then a favourable Draft Points trade covers the entire thing up. Just swapping our Second Rounder for their 3rd rounder plus the Dees, our or Geelong Fourth this year for their Lions 3rd, their and Hawks 4ths nets us a Pick in the 40?s after a bid of Croft around Pick 20. Now end of First Round.
Our first rounders all shuffle back though and the risk of Croft and Lions pick being impacted by this shuffle and several GCS matched bids means we almost certainly need to trade that out for a player of worth.
So the effect (see full scenario in rolling draft thread) of this:
In: Pick 11 (likely 13 at least after shuffles), Ben McKay (KPD), traded player with Lions First (mid maybe), Jordan Croft (KPF) late first round, circa Pick 40 (best Available) and a late pick (best available) with rookie upgrade/s.
The only other way is if they wanted a contracted player of ours we didn?t and took some salary. But that would raise AFEL attention.
So McKay at $800,000 and say Pick 40 after landing Croft first round is the hypothetical you?re after? So the large salary is offset by Pick 40. What?s that worth, I guess is the next question?Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023Comment
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Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
They get in: Pick 3, a second rounder (they don’t have one currently) and two fourth rounders
The pass out: McKay, 2 x 3rds and a Fourth Rounder
Pretty good deal for both clubs arguably. If you rate McKay.
Also, if Port finishes below Lions a guarantee not to bid on Croft.
Edit: unless they traded out a contracted player and paid some salary in 2024. The least to raise red flags to the AFEL would be Tarryn Thomas, or someone like him where his wage is an impediment to his trade. If the clubs and player all wanted it.
Again, if you rate McKay to $800,000 less what could be clawed back.Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023Comment
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Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
If we were to get Ben McKay I would be looking at trading with North to also get the pick 3.
What would we need to add to the 2 firsts we hold to get that from North.Life is to be Enjoyed not EnduredComment
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If I’m them I don’t trade it at all. But for argument sake, the Future First of ours too. Pick 3 for three late teen picks isn’t overly exciting for them I’m guessing. But they could go GCS first with two of our firsts and Port’s first.
Turn Pick 3 & 17 into Pick 8, 17 and F1.
That’s too rich for my blood.Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023Comment
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Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
For what it's worth the media haven't linked us with McKay - Port and Essendon seem the be the favourites.
It is also irrelevant that pick 3 may seem to be overs for McKay. It's simply a product of the compensation formula that is based on the contract and players age. Offer him enough to trigger band 1 compensation and North get a pick straight after their own first round pick. If North had won more games the pick wouldn't be as high (eg Buddy when he left the Hawks).Comment
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Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023Comment
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Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
He's restricted though - so if the contract offered isn't going to trigger band 1 compensation North can easily match and force a trade. The trading club then has a choice of paying McKay say $600k and having to give up perhaps a mid first round pick (or equivalent) or paying overs at $800k and preserving their draft capital.Comment
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