Early Trade Rumours 2023

[jeemak]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

It is highly likely that pick 1 has a career less than Tim English.



What if holding Tim for the extra contract year brought us the 2024 Flag or letting him go effectively cost that flag?

Plus the entire landscape might change before the end of 2024.

We need to negotiate for our best position and I believe we are capable of winning the flag in 2023 and 2024 with the right coaching/team selection/game plan.

We must hold firm.

Sorry, there's always a but......and the but is we'd need to have a contingency or recovery plan in place immediately.

I'm guessing that if Tim's out the door we already know it and would be planning for it accordingly. I am one of the posters who think his disadvantages/ limitations around here are a bit overblown and that he's extremely valuable to us and can be a matchwinner.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Sorry, there's always a but......and the but is we'd need to have a contingency or recovery plan in place immediately.

I'm guessing that if Tim's out the door we already know it and would be planning for it accordingly. I am one of the posters who think his disadvantages/ limitations around here are a bit overblown and that he's extremely valuable to us and can be a matchwinner.

He might possibly win the B and F and get AA.

Has any club lost their B and F two years in a row?

[jeemak]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

He might possibly win the B and F and get AA.

Has any club lost their B and F two years in a row?

It would certainly call Luke Beveridge's coaching into question if you asked Corn Kanes.

Honestly, they'll go at him like wolves if it happens, and completely ignore the wild cash upgrade.

[Bornadog]

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Tim already played a number of finals. Was so poor in 3/4 of them that his opposite number was the match winner.

Unfair comment when we all know that most big guys mature later. He is now one of the premier ruckman

A 30yo as ruck isn?t a problem. His motivation may be, I don?t think he wanted to leave Collingwood like Trealor. He chose Melbourne because Gawn wanted him. Everyone thought 2 alpha rucks might not work. We were actually a better suit with English

Grundy is cooked - I would prefer Sweet, must cheaper

[Grantysghost]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

It would certainly call Luke Beveridge's coaching into question if you asked Corn Kanes.

Honestly, they'll go at him like wolves if it happens, and completely ignore the wild cash upgrade.

There are cases of players staying despite better offers.
Probably the majority.
Guess it depends on how much the deal is, and what our counter looks like.
If they're close.... Maybe it's warranted.
Not Bevo, but the club should have questions asked.

[hujsh]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Tim certainly could be a matchwinner.

I remember Jordan Roughead taking that mark from the kick-in after the disallowed JJ goal. That was a matchwinning mark. Tim is absolutely capable of that.

That's a great moment. A matchwinning moment. So was the wall of Biggs. Neither had to be the most talented or highest paid player on the field. I guess the question with Tim is does he have those moments in him in big matches, does he have enough to justify what he's asking for and will he even beat his opponent on the day?

I'm not a Tim English hater but... I do still have doubts. He's 25 now. It's clear he'll never really be great at the physical stuff. It's not clear he'll be good enough to not get bullied like he was in the final last year.

[Vred]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

I look at it this way.

Over the last 20 years name one team that had a stand out dominant ruckman who won them the GF?
Gawn is probably the closest you'd get, going back further, Dean Cox, all the dynasty teams of the last 20 years (Geelong, Hawks, Richmond) had serviceable but not great ruckman, certainly not million-dollar-men like English will be.

I'd rather that money spent on the midfield.

I don't want to lose English, don't get me wrong, but if push comes to shove and his wanting money, I'd rather us spend it on midfield / retaining Naughton/JUH than I would on retaining a ruck.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

CATS REACH OUT TO DOGS ON BAILEY...

Geelong Cats have made contact with Western Bulldogs to assure the club is not pursuing gun playmaker Bailey Smith.

The Herald Sun understands a senior official at Geelong reached out to a colleague at the kennel to ease any fears the Dogs had about a rumoured approach from the Cats.

There was a report the Cats were actively discussing Smith but Geelong has denied it is in the midst of making a play for the star midfielder-forward.

Smith, 22, is contracted at the Bulldogs for another season and played well in the crushing win over Essendon at Marvel Stadium on Friday night amid some debate about his best position.

Smith, who again spent time on the forward flank, gathered 25 possessions and was highlighted by coach Luke Beveridge for his selfless team play helping disrupt Essendon’s intercept game across half back.

The No. 7 pick in the 2018 draft will play his 100th senior match against GWS Giants in Ballarat on Saturday afternoon.

Source: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...c1bbf5c818f755

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

What stand up people. Sedat is now in love them.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

SEN reporting Barass all but gone to Sydney.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

CATS REACH OUT TO DOGS ON BAILEY...

Geelong Cats have made contact with Western Bulldogs to assure the club is not pursuing gun playmaker Bailey Smith.

The Herald Sun understands a senior official at Geelong reached out to a colleague at the kennel to ease any fears the Dogs had about a rumoured approach from the Cats.

There was a report the Cats were actively discussing Smith but Geelong has denied it is in the midst of making a play for the star midfielder-forward.

Smith, 22, is contracted at the Bulldogs for another season and played well in the crushing win over Essendon at Marvel Stadium on Friday night amid some debate about his best position.

Smith, who again spent time on the forward flank, gathered 25 possessions and was highlighted by coach Luke Beveridge for his selfless team play helping disrupt Essendon’s intercept game across half back.

The No. 7 pick in the 2018 draft will play his 100th senior match against GWS Giants in Ballarat on Saturday afternoon.

Source: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...c1bbf5c818f755

Don't think I've ever seen a report like that before.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

SEN reporting Barass all but gone to Sydney.

That’s good news if they’ve got Pick 7 from Sydney.

Makes trading Pick 1 a little more palatable.

[Bornadog]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

CATS REACH OUT TO DOGS ON BAILEY...

Geelong Cats have made contact with Western Bulldogs to assure the club is not pursuing gun playmaker Bailey Smith.

The Herald Sun understands a senior official at Geelong reached out to a colleague at the kennel to ease any fears the Dogs had about a rumoured approach from the Cats.

There was a report the Cats were actively discussing Smith but Geelong has denied it is in the midst of making a play for the star midfielder-forward.

Smith, 22, is contracted at the Bulldogs for another season and played well in the crushing win over Essendon at Marvel Stadium on Friday night amid some debate about his best position.

Smith, who again spent time on the forward flank, gathered 25 possessions and was highlighted by coach Luke Beveridge for his selfless team play helping disrupt Essendon’s intercept game across half back.

The No. 7 pick in the 2018 draft will play his 100th senior match against GWS Giants in Ballarat on Saturday afternoon.

Source: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...c1bbf5c818f755

Initial rumour started by Sam Edmund - no words

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Initial rumour started by Sam Edmund - no words

“Fake news” ?

[Vred]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

“Fake news” ?

As I said, anything around B. Smith, 100% fake news.

Edmund should get on radio and 100% apologize. He wont. Snake.