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Re: 2011 - NAB Rising Star
Libba has played 15 games averaging 19 disposals a game including 28 disposals and 10 tackles against Brisbane early in the year, Blease has played 4 averaging 17 disposals highest being v GC where he was nominated on the weekend....
That just dont make sense!BT COME BACK!
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I think the award should go to Darling. To me the only real contender is Swallow...both played key roles from 1st game to last.
Heppell? Fine - but much easier to play on a flank than at CHF or as an inside mid.
I think Liber and Jones both deserve nominations, but don't really care that they haven't got them...if Luke Shuey is eligible in his 3rd year (basically because he couldn't get a game in the first two) then so should Chris Yarren and Jackson Trengrove who have had much better seasons...
As an aside, the 2008 draft was crap with a capital 'C'.What should I tell her? She's going to ask.Comment
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I think Jones definitely deserves a nomination he wouldn't go close to getting one considering Kevin Sheahan or however picks it just looks in the newspaper to see the stats for most games.
The biggest issue I have with the award is that it doesn't follow it's name/purpose. It's the 'Rising Star'. I think it should be awarded to the most promising player. Instead I believe it is more like the 'Best player under 21 and 10 games' award.
Jones is a young KP forward who doesn't rack up stats but he shows wonderful signs in the areas that matter. Liam doesn't get 20 easy touches or kick 3-4 goals against Port but is 6th in the league for total contested marks this season (only 3 off 3rd and 5 off 2nd).
This is seriously something wrong with the 'Rising Star' award when a kid who has the 6th highest amount of contested marks in the league not only doesn't get a Rising Star nom but probably didn't even get close to it.
The Brownlow is the award for mids and the Rising Star is the award for flankers/outside runners.Comment
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According to Swans fans, Alex Johnson has been holding down CHB for most of the season and has rarely been beaten. He would also be nowhere near a nomination due to not being an outside running mid or a flanker."Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"Comment
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Really?
Watts, Naitanui, Hill, Hartlett, Hurley, Yarran, Rich, Vickery, Ziebell, Davis, Sidebottom Shuey, Suban, Beams, Hannebery, Robinson, Anthony, Sloane, and Savage. (Not to mention future superstars Cordy, Roughead and Jones
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That's 19 blokes who should all eventually be (some perhaps aren't far off) solid or better players. I'd say it's about on par with most drafts thus far, with potentially a pretty big list of elite, top end players.Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?Comment
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Yep, it's the worst thing about the Rising Star. I mentioned Jones being 6th overall for contested marks. He also has missed two games, with only 2 players ahead of him averaging more contested marks per game. Along with Sam Reid, he is surrounded by mature bodies on the list. It's crazy, crazy stuff to not have him in the top 24 rising stars of 2011.
Tom Liberatore is even more crazy. A first year player playing as an inside midfielder and STILL getting the stats they normally love.Comment
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Another Bulldog, Liam Jones in the NAB Rising Star for round 24.
The winner of the Ron Evans Medal will be announced on Wednesday.
2011 Rising Stars
1. Dyson Heppell - Essendon (Gippsland Power) - Pick 8 - 2010ND
2. Luke Shuey - West Coast (Oakleigh Chargers) - Pick 18 - 2008ND
3. Mitch Duncan - Geelong (East Perth) - Pick 28 - 2009ND
4. Jasper Pittard - Port Adelaide (Geelong Falcons) - Pick 16 - 2009 ND
5. Brandon Matera - Gold Coast (South Fremantle) - GCDC -2010
6. Jack Darling - West Coast (West Perth) - Pick 26 - 2010ND
7. Zac Smith - Gold Coast (Rockhampton) - GCDC - 2009
8. Shane Savage - Hawthorn (Dandenong Stingrays) - Pick 75 - 2008ND
9. Reece Conca - Richmond (Perth) - Pick 6 - 2010ND
10. Jack Steven - St.Kilda (Geelong Falcons) - Pick 42 - 2007ND
11. Jordan Gysberts - Melbourne (Eastern Ranges) - Pick 11 - 2009ND
12. Sam Reid - Sydney (Murray Bushrangers) - Pick 38 - 2009ND
13. Daniel Menzel - Geelong (Central Districts) - Pick 17 - 2009ND
14. David Swallow - Gold Coast (East Fremantle) - Pick 1 - 2010ND
15. Luke Breust - Hawthorn (NSW/ACT Rams) - Pick 47 - 2008 RD
16. Jake Batchelor - Richmond (Dandenong Stingrays) - Pick 30 - 2010ND
17. Trent McKenzie - Gold Coast (Western Jets) - GCDC 2009
18. Allen Christensen - Geelong - (Geelong Falcons) - Pick 40 - 2009ND
19. Andrew Gaff - West Coast (Oakleigh Chargers) - Pick 4 - 2010ND
20. Zac Clarke - Fremantle (Oakleigh Chargers) - Pick 37 - 2008ND
21. Luke Dahlhaus - Western Bulldogs (Geelong Falcons) - Pick 22 - 2010 RD
22. Alex Fasolo - Collingwood (East Fremantle) - Pick 45 - 2010ND
23. Sam Blease - Melbourne (Eastern Ranges) - Pick 17 - 2008ND
24. Liam Jones - Western Bulldogs (Tassie Mariners) - Pick 32 - 2008NDLast edited by The Coon Dog; 05-09-2011, 04:58 PM.[COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]Comment
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Great news, well done Liam.The curse is dead.Comment
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That is great news, but once again I'm left scratching my head as to the selection process. Liam got 9 possessions and a couple of goals including a 'joe the goose' in the goal square. He's been terrific this season but he was largely a non-factor on Saturday. Dion Prestia was far better in Round 24 and has some previous form behind him. Libba was better this week as well - didn't get a heap of it but was very clean and had a game-high 6 clearances."Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"Comment
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HAs Libba played too many games to qualify next year?Comment
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