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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65583

    Talking trades

    From AFL.com.au

    WESTERN BULLDOGS

    Whispers: The silence is deafening on the trade front at Whitten Oval. The Dogs have stated a clear strategy to develop from within - to produce the right type of people to play the right way. If you listen to them, they won’t be active this trade period. But like any of their rivals, they would consider deals in the right circumstances, and probably only for players no older than 25.

    Commodities: The Dogs have eight players aged at least 29 and plan to - and need to - retain most of them to teach the younger players (a philosophy of coach Brendan McCartney). They also have an abundance of forward-flanker types and young key-position players, and they would hope to nurture the latter and transform them into one of the strengths of their list.

    Needs: Players in their mid-20s to balance out their stocks of experience and youth; a key forward (maybe impossibly Adelaide's Kurt Tippett or, more realistically, Essendon's Scott Gumbleton); a key back such as Collingwood star Ben Reid to take some pressure off veteran Brian Lake to both stop goals and create them; and a couple of classy, pacy midfielders - 22-year-old versions of Ryan Griffen and Adam Cooney would be ideal - to complement, long-term, the inside work of youngsters Tom Liberatore, Mitch Wallis and Clay Smith.

    Trade history: The Dogs have been busy over the past two years. Last year they traded Josh Hill to West Coast for pick 49 (which they used to get Daniel Pearce) and Ben Hudson to the Brisbane Lions for pick 70 (which they used to upgrade Luke Dahlhaus from their rookie list). The previous year they snared former Brisbane Lion Justin Sherman in exchange for the round one compensatory pick they received for losing Jarrod Harbrow to Gold Coast; traded Andrejs Everitt to the Sydney Swans for Patrick Veszpremi; and traded pick 58 for Geelong's Nathan Djerrkura.

    Fantasy trade: The Dogs desperately need midfield pace and precision, the likes of which could be provided by Collingwood's Sharrod Wellingham, who could potentially be wooed by the prospect of greater responsibility away from the Pies' star-studded midfield. The sting for the Dogs would be the need to dangle a big carrot - a Bob Murphy, for example. The Dogs veteran would have a far greater chance of playing in a premiership with the club he supported as a boy.

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  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7575

    #2
    Re: Talking trades

    ^^^ Didn't Bob support Richmond as a boy?
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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: Talking trades

      Sounds like a pile of it.
      Why would another club want a 30yo and what currency would he have?

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #4
        Re: Talking trades

        Wellingham for Murphy. What fantasy that is.
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        • AndrewP6
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2009
          • 8142

          #5
          Re: Talking trades

          Originally posted by The Coon Dog
          ^^^ Didn't Bob support Richmond as a boy?
          He went across to the Pies briefly...

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15103

            #6
            Re: Talking trades

            Do people except Sherman to be around in 2013? I'd imagine he'd be on a bit of coin considering.
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • Ghost Dog
              WOOF Member
              • May 2010
              • 9404

              #7
              Re: Talking trades

              Originally posted by azabob
              Do people except Sherman to be around in 2013? I'd imagine he'd be on a bit of coin considering.
              No disrespect to Jin Long but he's the second worst kick in the team, and really just learning. If he's getting picked ahead of Sherman, I'd say that's a bit of an indication we might not be seeing Sherman next year. Consider how much he's being paid! he should be one of our top shelf players, achieving the sorts of things Luke Dahlhaus does.
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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #8
                Re: Talking trades

                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                No disrespect to Jin Long but he's the second worst kick in the team,
                Presumably then, the worst kick is Lin Jong?

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #9
                  Re: Talking trades

                  Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                  Presumably then, the worst kick is Lin Jong?
                  Hahah Stuffed that right up. No, that honour goes to Slay Cmith.
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                  • azabob
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15103

                    #10
                    Re: Talking trades

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    Hahah Stuffed that right up. No, that honour goes to Slay Cmith.
                    Smith appears to be quite an accurate set shot for goal considering.
                    More of an In Bruges guy?

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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #11
                      Re: Talking trades

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      Smith appears to be quite an accurate set shot for goal considering.
                      I love the kid. but the ball drop has me with my heart in my mouth.
                      Watching a few youtube vids, I think he's letting it go too close to his body.
                      Last edited by Ghost Dog; 17-08-2012, 11:57 AM.
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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        #12
                        Re: Talking trades

                        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                        Hahah Stuffed that right up. No, that honour goes to Slay Cmith.
                        Made me laugh

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                        • Maddog37
                          WOOF Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3132

                          #13
                          Re: Talking trades

                          I think Talia is worse than both.

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                          • Greystache
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            #14
                            Re: Talking trades

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            Smith appears to be quite an accurate set shot for goal considering.
                            Yeah I agree. It's running at full speed that seems to be his problem. probably not that surprising given his ball drop. When he gets the ball onto his foot properly he's quite a penetrating kick, it's just with that ball drop it makes it really difficult to replicate.
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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14794

                              #15
                              Re: Talking trades

                              Originally posted by Greystache
                              Yeah I agree. It's running at full speed that seems to be his problem. probably not that surprising given his ball drop. When he gets the ball onto his foot properly he's quite a penetrating kick, it's just with that ball drop it makes it really difficult to replicate.
                              This can be a positive? Surely it is easier to fix a ball drop than any sort of leg-based biomechanical issues.

                              There is a kicking coach in Qld that specialises in improving kicking (well known for years, worked with the suns esp. Karmy Hunt) who emphasises ball handling exercises & grip exercises as the best way to improve kicking. Does Clay want to get some sun for a couple of weeks?

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