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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    Re: Talking trades

    Originally posted by Mofra
    Our trading record in the past few years includes such luminaries as Moles, DJ, Street, Baird, Rawlings, Sherman etc

    I'm glad we're not trying to trade to fill gaps on the list.
    It's not the principle of trading that is wrong here, it is the selctions made at the trade table. I can offer you a like number of failures at the draft. .

    My concern is the club coming out with a statement that we will not trade and rely on the draft which flies in the face of the success of Sydney and Hawthorn who had 20% of their players on Saturday sourced through trading.

    The commentators are falling over themselves with Sydney's long term success in participating in finals. They just happen to be the most prolific player at the trade table over the same period.

    And you're glad we're not trying to trade?

    Clearly, success comes with a mix of all opportunities including draft, trade and whatever means are available and not turning a blind eye to any avenue.

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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      Re: Talking trades

      Hawthorn only started trading when they were in flag winning mode.
      In 04 05 they traded out guys like Hay and Thompson.Geelong did the same thing, with bringing in Ottens.

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14794

        Re: Talking trades

        Originally posted by EJ Smith
        It's not the principle of trading that is wrong here, it is the selctions made at the trade table. I can offer you a like number of failures at the draft. .

        My concern is the club coming out with a statement that we will not trade and rely on the draft which flies in the face of the success of Sydney and Hawthorn who had 20% of their players on Saturday sourced through trading.
        The core group of both sides is drafted though, with only a few gaps that are filled by trading - and they tend to be lower cost "moneyball" type trades.

        We aren't in that stage of our development - we are building a new core group of players. Looking at young low cost options like Toy I can live with (although I remain unconvinced), but chasing a big fish and competing on pure dollar terms is not right for us at present.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43891

          Re: Talking trades

          Originally posted by chef
          Tippett is knocking back a more lucrative offer from the Crows to return home. Why would he end up in Victoria?

          If the Crows don't trade him to Brisbane/GC he'll just go into the PSD and end up at GC. He wants to go home, not earn more money.
          That was the idea with Mitch Clark as well. It does sound like he wants to head back home but it doesn't always work out that way.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14461

            Re: Talking trades

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            That was the idea with Mitch Clark as well. It does sound like he wants to head back home but it doesn't always work out that way.
            With GC having pick 2 he should be able to get there, I don't think Freo had the option of the PSD as other clubs interested had picks before them.

            I guess it all comes down to whether GWS are interested or not.
            The curse is dead.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: Talking trades

              Just heard something at the end of TEN sport bulletin, linking Lake with Hawthorn? WhWhWhaaaat?

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: Talking trades

                Yes I heard it as well, only deal Buddy fir Brian !

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                • chef
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14461

                  Re: Talking trades

                  JMac has already said he's required so I wouldn't worry.
                  The curse is dead.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Talking trades

                    Originally posted by chef
                    JMac has already said he's required so I wouldn't worry.
                    Yeah im positive the same rumours came up last year if not the year before also.

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15117

                      Re: Talking trades

                      Originally posted by alexxx
                      Yeah im positive the same rumours came up last year if not the year before also.
                      They did Alexxx, on another thread there is also the debate going on we should trade V shouldn't trade.

                      It all started again because Denham wrote an article in the Australian a few days back.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13120

                        Re: Talking trades

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        The core group of both sides is drafted though, with only a few gaps that are filled by trading - and they tend to be lower cost "moneyball" type trades.

                        We aren't in that stage of our development - we are building a new core group of players. Looking at young low cost options like Toy I can live with (although I remain unconvinced), but chasing a big fish and competing on pure dollar terms is not right for us at present.
                        But it has never been right for us has it? on the contrary we trade out all our big fish rather than lure them. Even though some of them didn't want to stay we still traded Templeton, Dempsey, Round and Quinlan, shite, we even traded Hawkins in the end.

                        I wish a big fish would come to our club
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15117

                          Re: Talking trades

                          Originally posted by 1eyedog
                          But it has never been right for us has it? on the contrary we trade out all our big fish rather than lure them. Even though some of them didn't want to stay we still traded Templeton, Dempsey, Round and Quinlan, shite, we even traded Hawkins in the end.

                          I wish a big fish would come to our club
                          How can you compare 20 years ago to today?

                          For what is worth didn't we delist the Hawk and he was drafted by Fitzroy?
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • Dancin' Douggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 2877

                            Re: Talking trades

                            Originally posted by 1eyedog
                            But it has never been right for us has it? on the contrary we trade out all our big fish rather than lure them. Even though some of them didn't want to stay we still traded Templeton, Dempsey, Round and Quinlan, shite, we even traded Hawkins in the end.

                            I wish a big fish would come to our club
                            Akermanis and Hall. Pretty big fish who CHOSE the dogs.

                            It's something.........

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              Re: Talking trades

                              Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                              Akermanis and Hall. Pretty big fish who CHOSE the dogs.

                              It's something.........
                              Neither had many other options though

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                              • KT31
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 5454

                                Re: Talking trades

                                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                                Neither had many other options though
                                Hall chose the Dogs the year previous, when he did have options, only to have Roos stop the deal.
                                It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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