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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 18103

    #481
    Re: Well Ruck Me.

    Originally posted by westbulldog
    Definite yes to Darcy if he was open to a very good offer. He is developing into a good all round ruck and has a competitive instinct.
    Darcy would be a slam dunk for us, perfect partner for English. Will never happen, sadly.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5628

      #482
      Re: Well Ruck Me.

      Originally posted by comrade
      Darcy would be a slam dunk for us, perfect partner for English. Will never happen, sadly.
      To get Darcy from Freo we would probably need to trade English.
      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18103

        #483
        Re: Well Ruck Me.

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        To get Darcy from Freo we would probably need to trade English.
        Now that is an interesting one!
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13387

          #484
          Re: Well Ruck Me.

          Originally posted by comrade
          Now that is an interesting one!
          No it's not Naughton and English will be the best forward combination in the competition. Good solid rucks can be found easier than good solid key forwards, and English will be way better than that.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 18103

            #485
            Re: Well Ruck Me.

            Originally posted by 1eyedog
            No it's not Naughton and English will be the best forward combination in the competition. Good solid rucks can be found easier than good solid key forwards, and English will be way better than that.
            You're definitely underestimating how good Darcy is by calling him a good solid ruck. I rate him second to Gawn this season.

            I rate Timmy, but we have a bloke waiting in the wings that apparently has some talent at the key forward caper.

            In 2022/23, would be better with Darcy at first ruck and Marra as third tall, or Sweet as first ruck and English as third tall?
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10244

              #486
              Re: Well Ruck Me.

              Darcy probably suits our needs more but Timmy is considerably better and more talented. I’d want extras.
              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 15116

                #487
                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                Originally posted by Smads57
                What about Sean Darcy from Freo. Isn’t there some talk about him wanting to come back to Victoria (Geelong)?
                Cobden boy. The interstate ones always go back to Geelong.
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                • 1eyedog
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13387

                  #488
                  Re: Well Ruck Me.

                  Originally posted by comrade
                  You're definitely underestimating how good Darcy is by calling him a good solid ruck. I rate him second to Gawn this season.

                  I rate Timmy, but we have a bloke waiting in the wings that apparently has some talent at the key forward caper.

                  In 2022/23, would be better with Darcy at first ruck and Marra as third tall, or Sweet as first ruck and English as third tall?
                  No no I mean do we really need Darcy or can we find a good solid ruckman to suit our needs? I guess I'm undervaluing the ruck role (as Bevo seems to do) rather than Darcy's ability. There is no way Bevo would consider an English for Darcy like trade. Would he?
                  But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18103

                    #489
                    Re: Well Ruck Me.

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    No no I mean do we really need Darcy or can we find a good solid ruckman to suit our needs? I guess I'm undervaluing the ruck role (as Bevo seems to do) rather than Darcy's ability. There is no way Bevo would consider an English for Darcy like trade. Would he?
                    Nah, I don't think so but it's interesting to think about how it would change our side. Admittedly, I'm a sucker for big, bullocking rucks that can mark and play big minutes.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • Vred
                      Senior Player
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 1301

                      #490
                      Re: Well Ruck Me.

                      JJ to Freo for their Darcy? Sign me up
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67693

                        #491
                        Re: Well Ruck Me.

                        Hands off, Cats: Dockers make move before ruck merry-go-round begins

                        THE RUCK merry-go-round is ready to ramp up for another year, but Fremantle has moved to ensure talented big man Sean Darcy is going nowhere.

                        The in-form big man is contracted to the end of 2022 but continually gets linked to Geelong, however AFL.com.au understands talks have started to extend his deal at the Dockers beyond the end of next year.

                        Darcy, 23, has had an impressive season with the Dockers and is keen to add to his current deal and remain in the west.

                        Despite seven young rucks being taken in this month's NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft, clubs are still expected to scour the trade and free agency market at the end of the year for readymade rucks searching for opportunities elsewhere.

                        Richmond's Mabior Chol is at the top of the list for many list managers, with the talented big man attracting interest after being in and out of the Tigers' juggernaut in the past few seasons.

                        Chol is unlikely to make a decision on his future until later in the season, with his young teammate Callum Coleman-Jones also having many suitors, including Gold Coast, as a forward/ruck.

                        Geelong has a pair of ruckmen out of contract at the end of this season, with first-choice big man Rhys Stanley's one-year extension due to expire and Esava Ratugolea's three-year contract coming to an end, while Darcy Fort looms as an option for clubs as he dominates at VFL level. Fort is contracted to the end of 2022.

                        Clubs had been monitoring Hawthorn big man Jon Ceglar at VFL level before his return to the senior side last Friday, when he starred with 20 disposals, 35 hitouts and a goal in the Hawks' surprise win over Sydney. Ceglar was on Brisbane's radar in 2019 before he penned a new deal with the Hawks, which stretches to the end of 2022.

                        The Swans were keen on Port Adelaide big man Peter Ladhams last season and have recently lost Sam Naismith to another anterior cruciate ligament injury that is likely to rule him out of action in 2022.

                        Ladhams (2022) and the yet-to-debut Sam Hayes (2023) are signed at Port Adelaide beyond this season but will continue to be targeted by rivals given they present as players who can step into the top level and perform and with Scott Lycett holding down the No.1 ruck position at Alberton.

                        Swans big man Callum Sinclair is out of contract at the end of the year, as is Paddy Ryder at St Kilda, who is keen to add another a third season to his time with the Saints.

                        Collingwood duo Mason Cox and Max Lynch are also out of contract, with the 22-year-old Lynch impressing in Monday's win over Melbourne as a replacement for injured star Brodie Grundy.

                        Also at the younger end, Lloyd Meek has played four games for the Dockers this season and done well and is without a deal for next year, while Giants ruck Matt Flynn broke through for his long-awaited debut earlier this season and has played eight games so far.

                        Among the other rucks who are without contracts for next year are Marc Pittonet (Carlton), Tom Campbell (North Melbourne) and Andrew Phillips (Essendon).

                        Stef Martin (Western Bulldogs), Tom Hickey (Sydney), Braydon Preuss (Greater Western Sydney), Peter Wright (Essendon) and Shaun McKernan (St Kilda) joined new clubs through either trades or free agency last off-season, with eight ruckmen changing clubs at the end of 2019 as clubs showed a preference to buy in experienced options rather than use selections at the national draft on young talls.
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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 18103

                          #492
                          Re: Well Ruck Me.

                          I hope he stays at the Dockers, stuff Geelong.
                          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 15116

                            #493
                            Re: Well Ruck Me.

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Collingwood duo Mason Cox and Max Lynch are also out of contract, with the 22-year-old Lynch impressing in Monday's win over Melbourne as a replacement for injured star Brodie Grundy.
                            Lynch has shown real signs. Held his own against Gawn and won't get the no 1 ruck gig while Grundy is there on a bazillion dollars for a thousand years
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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13387

                              #494
                              Re: Well Ruck Me.

                              Bevo and Chol have McAveney and Cyril vibes. I know NicNat got them over the line but Chol, while his field kicking can be junky, was good. Very good.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • comrade
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 18103

                                #495
                                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                Lynch has shown real signs. Held his own against Gawn and won't get the no 1 ruck gig while Grundy is there on a bazillion dollars for a thousand years
                                Need to see more to show he's more than just a tap ruckman, but signs are good. If he can show he's capable at scrapping and following up, I'd be keen.
                                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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