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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13237

    Re: Well Ruck Me.

    Originally posted by comrade
    I wouldn't be surprised if there are same changes to the on field leadership for next season. I hope Sammy P is still having a crack.
    He's certainly got a skill set we could utilise.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18033

      Re: Well Ruck Me.

      Getting more critical by the week.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15322

        Re: Well Ruck Me.

        Originally posted by comrade
        Getting more critical by the week.
        So reality it is status quo since 2018/19/20.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 18033

          Re: Well Ruck Me.

          Originally posted by azabob
          So reality it is status quo since 2018/19/20.
          Yep, our lack of attention to the issue may come back to bite us.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10145

            Re: Well Ruck Me.

            Apparently there’s talk of Peter Ladhams moving clubs based on Victorian interest. He would actually be perfect.
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18033

              Re: Well Ruck Me.

              Originally posted by Happy Days
              Apparently there’s talk of Peter Ladhams moving clubs based on Victorian interest. He would actually be perfect.
              We should definitely be on the phone to his manager. Basically anyone over 200cm that has shown any ability to win the ruck contest at AFL level that is even potentially available, should be on our radar.
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44675

                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                Apparently there’s talk of Peter Ladhams moving clubs based on Victorian interest. He would actually be perfect.
                As comrade indicated he would be a perfect addition as he's very close to being a Tim English clone being a genuine threat up forward and being a more than capable ruckman.
                Getting him too us would be an interesting challenge though.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10145

                  Re: Well Ruck Me.

                  What would it take? They won’t play him but he’s contracted. You’d have to expect that they’d want a first which might be a little too rich for my blood.
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18033

                    Re: Well Ruck Me.

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    What would it take? They won’t play him but he’s contracted. You’d have to expect that they’d want a first which might be a little too rich for my blood.
                    Just pay the price it takes. I'd happily give up our future first in some sort of deal for a mature, 80% game time ruckman. Whether that is Ladhams, I don't know but we need to sort that position out.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18972

                      Re: Well Ruck Me.

                      Originally posted by Happy Days
                      What would it take? They won’t play him but he’s contracted. You’d have to expect that they’d want a first which might be a little too rich for my blood.
                      Do they need a life long Dogs fan who can't quite crack an elite midfield?
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14965

                        Re: Well Ruck Me.

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Just pay the price it takes. I'd happily give up our future first in some sort of deal for a mature, 80% game time ruckman. Whether that is Ladhams, I don't know but we need to sort that position out.
                        I would too. Future first, with 2021 picks for points coming back to us.
                        He's 23, as plug and play as you can get and would be an 8-10 year player. Solves a massive issue and unlike Sweet or Martin can rest forward if needed.
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          Re: Well Ruck Me.

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          I would too. Future first, with 2021 picks for points coming back to us.
                          He's 23, as plug and play as you can get and would be an 8-10 year player. Solves a massive issue and unlike Sweet or Martin can rest forward if needed.
                          I just finished looking at Port’s draft hand and it’s a little complicated. They have at the moment very few picks with points outside of their first rounder, and they have Jase Burgoyne as their own father/son which they’ll need those late points plus more to secure. They’d need to trade out another player probably for Burgoyne. Then another to send us some points back. Which is possible, but complicated.

                          I’m more than happy to go into deficit on Sam Darcy, which means we could put up our first rounder this year (assuming we’ve got 700 Draft Points from trades/compo), and look at a future pick or future pick swap back to strengthen our draft hand next year after the first is lost.

                          This is something we need to do as a priority. If Martin retires, Ladhams has an offer to be first ruck at a premiership contender for many years to come. You’d think that’s a great carrot.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • DOG GOD
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 6548

                            Re: Well Ruck Me.

                            And he’ll probably end up at St.Kilda, Carlton, Richmond or Geelong
                            I will never see #16 the same!!

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                            • soupman
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5113

                              Re: Well Ruck Me.

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              I’m more than happy to go into deficit on Sam Darcy, which means we could put up our first rounder this year (assuming we’ve got 700 Draft Points from trades/compo), and look at a future pick or future pick swap back to strengthen our draft hand next year after the first is lost.
                              What happens if we go into deficit to take Darcy (which I think takes point off our first rounder next year pushing it back in the order, but we have already traded out that first rounder? Does the deficit go to our next pick, or carry over into 2022, or what?
                              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                                Originally posted by soupaman
                                What happens if we go into deficit to take Darcy (which I think takes point off our first rounder next year pushing it back in the order, but we have already traded out that first rounder? Does the deficit go to our next pick, or carry over into 2022, or what?
                                The maximum deficit allowed is 1,723 DPs. If you trade out the future first the maximum deficit is reduced to only 738 DPS.

                                If Darcy went at Pick 1 - 2,400 DPS - we’d need to have 1,662 DPs this year at a minimum. Without that and reduced allowable deficit then the afel would not approve the bid to be matched. You can’t roll deficits over years.

                                As per my second essay, I think trading this years first for a player and finding 700+ DPs in trades and taking nearly the maximum deficit is they way to go. It’s like AfterPay, get Darcy & The Traded Player now and have it paid back in 12 months.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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