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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 15118

    #496
    Re: Well Ruck Me.

    Sweet losing the VFL battle here to (admittedly a mature) Rhys Stanley.

    Is a mature ruck a more important trade target than a KPD?
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • The Doctor
      Coaching Staff
      • Jan 2007
      • 3712

      #497
      Re: Well Ruck Me.

      Originally posted by Mofra
      Sweet losing the VFL battle here to (admittedly a mature) Rhys Stanley.

      Is a mature ruck a more important trade target than a KPD?
      I think it is
      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #498
        Re: Well Ruck Me.

        Just the facts Jack. Just the facts.

        Stef Martin
        34 years 7 months

        2021:
        5 games without injury
        2 games injured in/after (Achilles & Shoulder)
        7 games missed to injury at this stage
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Vred
          Senior Player
          • Nov 2018
          • 1301

          #499
          Re: Well Ruck Me.

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Just the facts Jack. Just the facts.

          Stef Martin
          34 years 7 months

          2021:
          5 games without injury
          2 games injured in/after (Achilles & Shoulder)
          7 games missed to injury at this stage
          Have a feeling his contract extension won't be triggered and we'll be hard on the hunt for another mature ruck at the end of this season.
          [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 15118

            #500
            Re: Well Ruck Me.

            Originally posted by Vred
            Have a feeling his contract extension won't be triggered and we'll be hard on the hunt for another mature ruck at the end of this season.
            I felt he was a 5-10 game ruckman this year but would be a wonderful pick up as a playing coach.
            He's been fantastic for the development of Sweet (and to a lesser extent Timmy) but I really want us to pick up a mature ruckman.

            Actually, a mature ruckman and a kid (Sam Darcy may be that kid).

            Not too many OOC - Max Lynch, Lloyd Meek, Archie Smith, Rhys Stanley, Matthew Flynn, BTC, Chol, Callum Sinclair and Nathan Vardy

            Not really an inspiring list.

            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • Vred
              Senior Player
              • Nov 2018
              • 1301

              #501
              Re: Well Ruck Me.

              Originally posted by Mofra
              I felt he was a 5-10 game ruckman this year but would be a wonderful pick up as a playing coach.
              He's been fantastic for the development of Sweet (and to a lesser extent Timmy) but I really want us to pick up a mature ruckman.

              Actually, a mature ruckman and a kid (Sam Darcy may be that kid).

              Not too many OOC - Max Lynch, Lloyd Meek, Archie Smith, Rhys Stanley, Matthew Flynn, BTC, Chol, Callum Sinclair and Nathan Vardy

              Not really an inspiring list.

              https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...ntract_players
              Yeah really not liking what’s on offer for mature ducks at the moment... English isn’t it, Sweet still needs development, Darcy is a kid, no idea what we do...
              [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 18103

                #502
                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                I'd be keeping an eye on Lynch, Meek and Flynn or just hope like hell that Sweet can find another level.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10246

                  #503
                  Re: Well Ruck Me.

                  Meek and Flynn are legit. If I was Flynn I would be pretty pissed about putting up good games and still having a guy who I'm like 99% sure is playing in a girdle continually picked ahead of me, but I assume they wanna actually keep him. Meek might be more achievable.
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 15118

                    #504
                    Re: Well Ruck Me.

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    Meek and Flynn are legit. If I was Flynn I would be pretty pissed about putting up good games and still having a guy who I'm like 99% sure is playing in a girdle continually picked ahead of me, but I assume they wanna actually keep him. Meek might be more achievable.
                    Given Meek is a Ballarat boy and that's our area, we should ask the AFL to chip in one of those dodgy 'ambassador' payments that some clubs seem to get (e.g.the money Tom Lynch was offered to stay at GCS, the money Touk Miller gets, NSW ambassador payments, etc)
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10246

                      #505
                      Re: Well Ruck Me.

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Given Meek is a Ballarat boy and that's our area, we should ask the AFL to chip in one of those dodgy 'ambassador' payments that some clubs seem to get (e.g.the money Tom Lynch was offered to stay at GCS, the money Touk Miller gets, NSW ambassador payments, etc)
                      For Lloyd Meek? Doubt they bite.
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15484

                        #506
                        Re: Well Ruck Me.

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        For Lloyd Meek? Doubt they bite.
                        Is the offer in your signature still on the table? Imagine we landed him instead of big Stef.

                        - RIP Goldstein for 2021 First - 2020-2020 -
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10246

                          #507
                          Re: Well Ruck Me.

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          Is the offer in your signature still on the table? Imagine we landed him instead of big Stef.

                          - RIP Goldstein for 2021 First - 2020-2020 -
                          I know we had a lot of irons in the fire but we really should’ve pushed harder on him. No way if we offered North the pick they say no.
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • The Pie Man
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2008
                            • 3505

                            #508
                            Re: Well Ruck Me.

                            Ladhams got dropped again this week, massive long shot but worth an enquiry
                            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #509
                              Re: Well Ruck Me.

                              Shout out to Timmy.

                              NN got 7 more touches (much less efficient though), 16 more hit outs and a handful more clearances
                              Timmy got 6 more marks and 3 more tackles, 2 more intercepts, 1 more shot at goal, 1 more GA & Score Involvement, 19% more efficient

                              Without going to the tapes, I’m going to say NN won in the ruck contests that was responsible for his main stats being higher. But Tim seems to have outworked him around the ground, especially forward to even the ledger. Both men played to their very different strengths. In the end best case for WCE was a draw where they expected dominance. Bevo’s counter point to play to our strengths and not overly focus on weakness paid off as Tim’s return was terrific.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8999

                                #510
                                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                Shout out to Timmy.

                                NN got 7 more touches (much less efficient though), 16 more hit outs and a handful more clearances
                                Timmy got 6 more marks and 3 more tackles, 2 more intercepts, 1 more shot at goal, 1 more GA & Score Involvement, 19% more efficient

                                Without going to the tapes, I’m going to say NN won in the ruck contests that was responsible for his main stats being higher. But Tim seems to have outworked him around the ground, especially forward to even the ledger. Both men played to their very different strengths. In the end best case for WCE was a draw where they expected dominance. Bevo’s counter point to play to our strengths and not overly focus on weakness paid off as Tim’s return was terrific.
                                Agree. But I saw some really good signs from Tim with his ruckcraft. NN is the type of player Tim has been panted by before. Today, we saw Tim time his jumps better, use movement and change of position at the ruck contest to at least halve the hit out, and deny NN (and therefore his on all crew) 100% confidence they were going to win at every ruck contest.
                                Like Bont, NN's talent can't always be denied, but Tim did more than enough to ensure Nick wasn't a crucial factor.

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