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  • The Doctor
    Coaching Staff
    • Jan 2007
    • 3702

    Re: List Management 2015

    Originally posted by The Doctor
    Listed here is our team in positional order and their respective ages as at the start of the 2016 season. In this thread we can discuss what we need to do to improve our list, trade and recruiting ideas & rumours, types of draftees we need etc. The positions are just a guide as some players could easily cross from one group to another.


    Key Forwards

    Boyd 20, Stringer 21, Redpath 25,


    Medium/Small Forwards

    Crameri 27, Dickson 28, McLean 20, Hamilton 20, Dale 19,


    Ruckmen

    Minson 31, Roughead 25, Campbell 24,


    Tall Midfielders

    Bontempelli 20, Macrae 21, Stevens 24, Jong 22,


    Small Midfielders

    Liberatore 23, Wallis 23, Picken 29, Dahlhaus 23, Hunter 21, Hrovat 21, C.Smith 22, Honeychurch 21, Prudden 21, Daniel 19,


    Key Defenders

    Morris 33, Hamling 23, Roberts 22, Z.Cordy 19


    Medium/Small Defenders

    Murphy 33, Boyd 33, Wood 26, Johannisen 23, Webb 20, Biggs 24, R.Smith 19*, Suckling 27
    Opening para now updated after trade week.

    We have 4 positions on the primary list to fill and 3 on the rookie list.

    This shows me that we are in need of 1 ruckman, 2 key defenders, 1 or 2 key forwards.
    Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14873

      Re: List Management 2015

      Originally posted by The Doctor
      This shows me that we are in need of 1 ruckman, 2 key defenders, 1 or 2 key forwards.
      Excuse me for being anal, but I'd be more nuanced - we need a tall high forward, one who can cover ground and leave either Boyd or Redpath deep. If they were 193cm (shortish for a modern KPF) but could fill the role I'd be interested
      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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      • F'scary
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4089

        Re: List Management 2015

        Originally posted by Mofra
        Excuse me for being anal, but I'd be more nuanced - we need a tall high forward, one who can cover ground and leave either Boyd or Redpath deep. If they were 193cm (shortish for a modern KPF) but could fill the role I'd be interested
        Hamling?
        Officially on the Bus-wagon

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13191

          Re: List Management 2015

          Originally posted by Mofra
          Excuse me for being anal, but I'd be more nuanced - we need a tall high forward, one who can cover ground and leave either Boyd or Redpath deep. If they were 193cm (shortish for a modern KPF) but could fill the role I'd be interested
          Grant?

          In all seriousness doesn't / shouldn't Stringer or Crameri fill this role?
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • boydogs
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 5842

            Re: List Management 2015

            Originally posted by The Doctor
            This shows me that we are in need of 1 ruckman, 2 key defenders, 1 or 2 key forwards.
            I think we need a small forward. You've got McLean, Hamilton & Dale listed there but none of them are lightning quick, highly skilled crumber types. We've never replaced Dahlhaus in the forward line
            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

            Formerly gogriff

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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10097

              Re: List Management 2015

              Originally posted by boydogs
              I think we need a small forward. You've got McLean, Hamilton & Dale listed there but none of them are lightning quick, highly skilled crumber types. We've never replaced Dahlhaus in the forward line
              Honeychurch? Daniel?

              Our ball containment inside 50 stems from our mids flooding down to create a stoppage anyway. We were one of the best teams from scoring from stoppages last year.
              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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              • boydogs
                WOOF Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 5842

                Re: List Management 2015

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                Honeychurch? Daniel?

                Our ball containment inside 50 stems from our mids flooding down to create a stoppage anyway. We were one of the best teams from scoring from stoppages last year.
                Daniel's not quick, he's a genuine mid. I like Honeychurch down there, but he only played 11 games. The Boyd & Honeychurch combo worked well early in the season
                Last edited by boydogs; 24-10-2015, 06:47 PM.
                If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                Formerly gogriff

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                • The Doctor
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3702

                  Re: List Management 2015

                  Originally posted by boydogs
                  Daniel not quick, he's a genuine mid. I like Honeychurch down there, but he only played 11 games. The Boyd & Honeychurch combo worked well early in the season
                  Honeychurch is not a great finisher nor a real opportunistic goalkicker. But I can see your earlier point about a small forward, someone who can finish & pluck a goal from his bum! Daniel Rioli might be that player. however a lot of people might get angry at recruiting another midget.
                  Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27654

                    Re: List Management 2015

                    I'm not concerned its a midget we are recruiting, it's the fact his name is Rioli. All of the 4 or 5 Rioli's recruited to the AFL could play the game, some better than others, so I'm not really worried from a talent perspective. I'm worried that Bruce will make our games unwatchable on TV with his slobbering anf hyperbole.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • stefoid
                      Senior Player
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1846

                      Re: List Management 2015

                      Originally posted by boydogs
                      I think we need a small forward. You've got McLean, Hamilton & Dale listed there but none of them are lightning quick, highly skilled crumber types. We've never replaced Dahlhaus in the forward line
                      I agree.

                      But rather than specifically recruit a small forward, I think we will be better off recruiting a quality mid with speed and have Dal play forward more often. He is pretty good in the midfield, but an elite small forward offensively and defensively.

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        Re: List Management 2015

                        Originally posted by stefoid
                        I agree.

                        But rather than specifically recruit a small forward, I think we will be better off recruiting a quality mid with speed and have Dal play forward more often. He is pretty good in the midfield, but an elite small forward offensively and defensively.

                        Agree. It's great to play in the midfield but Dal is a good hard working mid along with anot 20 other players. But like you say he is elite on a position that's noturiusly hard to fill.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Bulldog Joe
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5516

                          Re: List Management 2015

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          Agree. It's great to play in the midfield but Dal is a good hard working mid along with anot 20 other players. But like you say he is elite on a position that's noturiusly hard to fill.
                          I don't get the obsession with the small forward role. We have close to the best small forward going round in Tory Dickson.
                          Others rotate through the midfield and we also get goals from them.

                          I would say our forward line is in the best shape we have had for a very long time.
                          If we get the expected improvement from Tom Boyd over the next 2 to 3 years and continued development from Redpath, we will be more than competitive with anyone.

                          We really need to fix our ruck issues.
                          Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6924

                            Re: List Management 2015

                            Thing about Dahl types is they don't stay forward for too long as they can do more further up the ground. If we were to find a replacement, he would then be also moved up the ground.

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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              Re: List Management 2015

                              We have heaps of good small forward options. Dahlhaus, Hunter, Honeychurch, Daniel, McLean, for example.
                              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27654

                                Re: List Management 2015

                                Originally posted by F'scary
                                We have heaps of good small forward options. Dahlhaus, Hunter, Honeychurch, Daniel, McLean, for example.
                                But only on oNe of them is elite at the moment. A couple may become elie (Hunter, Honeychurch as small forwards, McLean as a mid, Daniel as a running defender.

                                Let's play our players in the positions they are best at. If we really need a small mid then we'd be better getting games into McLean and leaving Dahlhaus up forward to kick goals.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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