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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21614

    Re: List Management 2015

    TD, are you sure Daniel is a running defender?
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13191

      Re: List Management 2015

      Meant Dale maybe?
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • F'scary
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4089

        Re: List Management 2015

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        But only on oNe of them is elite at the moment. A couple may become elie (Hunter, Honeychurch as small forwards, McLean as a mid, Daniel as a running defender.

        Let's play our players in the positions they are best at. If we really need a small mid then we'd be better getting games into McLean and leaving Dahlhaus up forward to kick goals.
        Agree on Dahlhaus 100%, he is an A grader in the midfield or as a small forward with his remarkable ability to get the ball to boot in almost any situation. I reckon the others will all go pretty well as small forwards - whether that's where you want to play them is another matter. Hunter, e.g., gets so many good possessions further up the field, you probably would only play him as a small FP if that was the only spot left. But still, with the competition for midfield spots, any of the others I listed would earn their keep as a smaller FP.
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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27654

          Re: List Management 2015

          Originally posted by jeemak
          TD, are you sure Daniel is a running defender?
          For sure. On his highlights reel there is footage of him receiving hand balls in defence and setting off on long runs. I know he was probably playing in the midfield at the time but he looked really comfortable deep in defence with the ball in his hands. Harbrow was recruited as a small forward. I reckon Daniel will end up playing in defence.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • F'scary
            WOOF Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 4089

            Re: List Management 2015

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            For sure. On his highlights reel there is footage of him receiving hand balls in defence and setting off on long runs. I know he was probably playing in the midfield at the time but he looked really comfortable deep in defence with the ball in his hands. Harbrow was recruited as a small forward. I reckon Daniel will end up playing in defence.
            Interesting viewpoint. He certainly is a good little player, it is probably a bit early to call him the best of the smalls we have recruited since Dahlhaus but next season could be the one where this question is settled.
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            • stefoid
              Senior Player
              • Dec 2009
              • 1846

              Re: List Management 2015

              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
              I don't get the obsession with the small forward role. We have close to the best small forward going round in Tory Dickson.
              I think the small forward we are talking about is the crumbing forward who can turn a half chance into a goal and cause panic amongst the defenders with his speed. Dicko is more of a mark and kick forward.

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27654

                Re: List Management 2015

                Originally posted by stefoid
                I think the small forward we are talking about is the crumbing forward who can turn a half chance into a goal and cause panic amongst the defenders with his speed. Dicko is more of a mark and kick forward.
                That's my thoughts on Tory too. I mean the crumber or the guy who knows exactly what spot he can kick a goal from. It's such an important position and really difficult to play well in. Dahl plays well there, he's one of the best small forwards in the AFL.

                When we are running out of midfielders then by all means play him in the midfield but while we have enough mids lets let ourselves have the luxury of Dahl up forward.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  Re: List Management 2015

                  Looking forward to the day when all guys can just play the position they are best at.
                  Little concerned at our lack of bulk overall and the toll it will take injury wise. Could do with a few older rookies.
                  Last edited by Ghost Dog; 26-10-2015, 12:31 AM.
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                  • soupman
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5093

                    Re: List Management 2015

                    Why don't people rate Dahlhaus as a midfielder/small forward? He made the AA squad this year playing mostly as a midfielder. It isn't like our forwardline lacks potency when the ball hits the ground. That's when Stringer does his best work, and Crameri, Dickson, Dahlhaus, Bont, Wallis etc. have all shown an ability to be dangerous at ground level.
                    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44367

                      Re: List Management 2015

                      Originally posted by soupaman
                      Why don't people rate Dahlhaus as a midfielder/small forward? He made the AA squad this year playing mostly as a midfielder. It isn't like our forwardline lacks potency when the ball hits the ground. That's when Stringer does his best work, and Crameri, Dickson, Dahlhaus, Bont, Wallis etc. have all shown an ability to be dangerous at ground level.
                      He's a gun player who I think rotates through both areas brilliantly. The defensive pressure he applies in the forward line is right up there with the best.
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                      • soupman
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 5093

                        Re: List Management 2015

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        He's a gun player who I think rotates through both areas brilliantly. The defensive pressure he applies in the forward line is right up there with the best.
                        Exactly the mix atm is pretty potent and he has had a sensational season. He is having a far greater impact on matches in his current role than he did as a pure forward.
                        I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14873

                          Re: List Management 2015

                          Originally posted by boydogs
                          I think we need a small forward.
                          Bevo doesn't play specialist small forwards so the point is moot - he's pretty vocal and open about wanting flexibility.

                          Watch the rotation levels during the second Melbourne game as a case in point - I swear we were on 45 second rotations through most forwardline spots for the entire game.
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66213

                            Re: List Management 2015

                            Originally posted by soupaman
                            Why don't people rate Dahlhaus as a midfielder/small forward? He made the AA squad this year playing mostly as a midfielder. It isn't like our forwardline lacks potency when the ball hits the ground. That's when Stringer does his best work, and Crameri, Dickson, Dahlhaus, Bont, Wallis etc. have all shown an ability to be dangerous at ground level.
                            Dahl is a great player but his kicking is atrocious and probably the worse kick in our side.
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                            • stefoid
                              Senior Player
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1846

                              Re: List Management 2015

                              Originally posted by soupaman
                              Why don't people rate Dahlhaus as a midfielder/small forward? He made the AA squad this year playing mostly as a midfielder. It isn't like our forwardline lacks potency when the ball hits the ground. That's when Stringer does his best work, and Crameri, Dickson, Dahlhaus, Bont, Wallis etc. have all shown an ability to be dangerous at ground level.
                              Hes a pretty good midfielder, but hes an elite crumbing forward, thats what it comes down to. There are plenty of better mids out there than Dal, but not many better crumbing forwards. In a successful Bev-coached team, playing predominantly as a small forward, I reckon he would make the AA team for the next 5 years.

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                              • Bulldog4life
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 9607

                                Re: List Management 2015

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Dahl is a great player but his kicking is atrocious and probably the worse kick in our side.
                                I would say his set shots aren't the best but his snaps for goal are not atrocious.

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