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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10070

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    He would secure a talented spine for 6-8 years, as well as ability to ruck too.
    He'll probably be good, but I don't like the price we'd have to pay relative to the risk we'd incur. Also re: rucking, he has 4 career hitouts in 27 AFL games, and no more than 1 in any game.
    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by Happy Days
      He'll probably be good, but I don't like the price we'd have to pay relative to the risk we'd incur. Also re: rucking, he has 4 career hitouts in 27 AFL games, and no more than 1 in any game.
      This was from the Hun a couple of weeks ago, Brisbane were talking to Richmond who now want to go to the draft:

      Schache, a former No. 2 draft pick, surprisingly re-signed with Brisbane in June but was still on Richmond’s radar as the club looks for another tall forward to help Jack Riewoldt.

      The two clubs spoke informally about what a trade could look like after Schache ended his season early, returning home to Victoria instead of playing in the NEAFL grand final.

      .......

      What if we could get creative?

      Dogs give: 9 & 26, 3rd rounder 2018
      Brisbane give: 18, 41 and Schache

      Brisbane: Land another top 14 pick this year, it would be four inside pick 14. Plus 26 to help cover the early bid on Ballenden. The draft points would be worth about pick 14 or 15. Which is about his worth.

      Dogs: Still hold a first rounder in 18 (even though it's technically not, but pick 18 notionally is) and a possible additional first rounder for Stringer. That'd be two first rounders for Dalrymple this year and a pick 2 player from 2 years ago. We then use 39 on Crozier. Pick 41 to be used on draft day >

      (11), 18, 41, 80 plus Trengove, Schache, Crozier (anything for small trades)
      Last edited by bulldogtragic; 07-10-2017, 03:15 PM.
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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27654

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Originally posted by Happy Days
        He'll probably be good, but I don't like the price we'd have to pay relative to the risk we'd incur. Also re: rucking, he has 4 career hitouts in 27 AFL games, and no more than 1 in any game.

        I'm torn beteween his ability to ruck and his ability to be tall. We confuse the two at the moment in AFL.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44191

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Not bad BT. Schache is worth considering but it it still seems a long shot.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11820

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by dog town
            We would need to delist a ruckmen if we were going to pick up another one in my opinion. Roughy/Boyd with Campbell and English as back ups is plenty. If we don't think it is there is an issue with those players. The number is more than ok considering we don't even rely on a traditional ruck type.
            I don't see how after watching us this year you could reasonably reach that conclusion.

            Boyd rucking with support from Jong or the Bont is hardly ideal. Rough and Campbell both get injured and English is still far from ready.

            We essentially have 2 ruckmen on the list and others we can throw into the ruck/sacrifice to the ruck gods like a virgin going into a volcano.

            A rookie ruck would be a smart pragmatic option.
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Richmond won a flag with Shaun Grigg as it's second ruck .

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27654

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                Richmond won a flag with Shaun Grigg as it's second ruck .

                Yeah but with a decent first ruck.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44191

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  Originally posted by Remi Moses
                  Richmond won a flag with Shaun Grigg as it's second ruck .
                  Not because though, just with.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Dry Rot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6432

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    Yeah but with a decent first ruck.
                    Poor old Swans let the wrong ruckman go. I thought he was terrific

                    I read somewhere that we were interested in him - is that true?
                    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by Dry Rot
                      Poor old Swans let the wrong ruckman go. I thought he was terrific

                      I read somewhere that we were interested in him - is that true?
                      Us? Interested in a ruckman from another club?

                      I don't think so.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        Originally posted by Dry Rot
                        Poor old Swans let the wrong ruckman go. I thought he was terrific

                        I read somewhere that we were interested in him - is that true?
                        They had to many ruckmen though . Naismith is a decent ruck

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44191

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          Originally posted by Dry Rot
                          Poor old Swans let the wrong ruckman go. I thought he was terrific

                          I read somewhere that we were interested in him - is that true?
                          I seem to recall that we discussed him here but we didn't think he was much better than we already had.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I seem to recall that we discussed him here but we didn't think he was much better than we already had.
                            From memory the club enquired, but he picked Richmond.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44191

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              From memory the club enquired, but he picked Richmond.
                              We have to start working on our sales pitch
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                Not bad BT. Schache is worth considering but it it still seems a long shot.
                                Agreed. It seems odd that Brisbane are holding meetings/discussions to discuss trading him, and his manager has gone from 'he's playing at Brisbane next year' to now 'who knows what happens at this time of the year'.

                                Seems like both seem receptive to trade. If the kid is ever going to make it, he needs to be close to home with a Vic club.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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