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  • chef
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 14563

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    Hmm, maybe Schache was full of shit with what he told my daughter. They are pretty good friends so it's weird that he lied to her.

    But hope we aren't after him, not what we need.
    The curse is dead.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44190

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by chef
      Hmm, maybe Schache was full of shit with what he told my daughter. They are pretty good friends so it's weird that he lied to her.

      But hope we aren't after him, not what we need.
      It is most likely 100% the truth when they talked. Things can change quickly in the AFL. I could see Brisbane saying to him there has been some clubs asking about your availability and it's gone from there.

      He could be a good player or another Stephen Oliver that would rather live in the country than commit to the demands of AFL footy
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • Bulldog Revolution
        Coaching Staff
        • Dec 2006
        • 3924

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        I'd rather take early picks into the draft but I just have the feeling we could be looking for that good news story and Schache might be that.

        I'm not sure why there are questions marks about his competitiveness though, he has played 27 games in 2 seasons which is a fast tracked development rate for young KP players.
        I'd rather take the pick also - he had a very disappointing year in 2017 and there has to be question marks over him

        I'm not sold he turns it around in a new environment

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        • kruder
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2011
          • 3768

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Hypothetical , if we do land Schache what do we do with Cloke? Obviously you want the kid to earn a game but at the same time would you play Cloke in front of him who clearly is on his last legs?

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by kruder
            Hypothetical , if we do land Schache what do we do with Cloke? Obviously you want the kid to earn a game but at the same time would you play Cloke in front of him who clearly is on his last legs?
            Form into the side only. The longer game is what this should be about. We could be without Crammers & Cloke by next year. History says we can't rely on Redders. Young & Adams are unknown as AFL forwards.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • ratsmac
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2009
              • 3974

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Form into the side only. The longer game is what this should be about. We could be without Crammers & Cloke by next year. History says we can't rely on Redders. Young & Adams are unknown as AFL forwards.
              Exactly. He's still very young. He probably won't be an over night success but he has time on his side. Tom Boyd still hasn't shot the lights out (barring 2 of my all time favourite games) by any means but I'm still excited about him because I feel he'll be a great player in the next couple seasons. If our recruiting staff can see something in Schache that they are willing to part with a first rounder for, well that's good enough for me. They know more than me when it comes to these matters. Its just as risky as picking up any kid in the draft. There's always a chance that the kid doesn't come on as we (or any club) would have hoped.
              They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
              Brian Fantana.

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11104

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                I don’t rate Cloke or Redpath and we’re obsessed with rucking Boyd so Schache makes sense.

                However, I also share concerns about his mental application and his lack of aggression.
                W00F!

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                • SquirrelGrip
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1486

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  I agree Boyd and Schache make a lot of sense. Trade Campbell and/or Redpath for an extra mid-range pick or two. The high pressure small forward line has worked he last two years in finals but trends change quickly. Boyd and Schache with Tim English in the ruck is a big man trio for the next 10 years. We also either keep Stringer or gain another quality young kid with the pick. It’s a good set up.
                  "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                  • jazzadogs
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5560

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    If we have a forward line of Boyd and Schache, would that be the least intimidating set of tall forwards (not talent-wise, aggression and attack on the football-wise) in the league? One thing Redpath does bring is the willingness to crash packs...

                    I haven't seen any of Schache's games but whispers about a lack of aggression are not promising. I feel like there are other options available at the draft which would suit our list better (similar to how I feel about Lever).

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Collingwood confirming 6 won’t be used on Schache.

                      That only leaves North & Carlton with a higher pick than ours who have interest. I can’t see them trading down from 3/4. We might be in an ok window to trade down to get him if the club so chooses.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • ratsmac
                        Coaching Staff
                        • May 2009
                        • 3974

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                        Brian Fantana.

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                        • kruder
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2011
                          • 3768

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Collingwood confirming 6 won’t be used on Schache.

                          That only leaves North & Carlton with a higher pick than ours who have interest. I can’t see them trading down from 3/4. We might be in an ok window to trade down to get him if the club so chooses.
                          I reckon we are a big chance on this one.

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                          • kruder
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2011
                            • 3768

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                            I agree Boyd and Schache make a lot of sense. Trade Campbell and/or Redpath for an extra mid-range pick or two. The high pressure small forward line has worked he last two years in finals but trends change quickly. Boyd and Schache with Tim English in the ruck is a big man trio for the next 10 years. We also either keep Stringer or gain another quality young kid with the pick. It’s a good set up.
                            Agree we need to find another way to score it simply cant just be about pressure and this year highlighted the fact even more so.

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                            • ratsmac
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2009
                              • 3974

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              If GWS are into Honeychuch could we back door Essendon and make a play for Devon Smith? I'm not sure if he suits us or not but gee the look on Dodos face would be priceless.
                              They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                              Brian Fantana.

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                              • Dry Rot
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6432

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                I'd rather pinch Saad from him.
                                The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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