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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11107

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    Originally posted by ratsmac
    If GWS are into Honeychuch could we back door Essendon and make a play for Devon Smith?
    Might be in the minority but I'm not a fan at all. He is a front runner with no defensive or team-oriented bone in his body. He's also missed a fair bit of footy with injury in the last 12 months.

    If Essendon get Smith, Stringer and Saad, it could blow up in their faces for many years to come. None of them are full time mids and none of them are defensively minded players - what Essendon desperately need is midfield depth and players with a defensive mindset. They are selling the farm on players that address none of their urgent needs, and they are an old list as it is.
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Collingwood confirming 6 won’t be used on Schache.

      That only leaves North & Carlton with a higher pick than ours who have interest. I can’t see them trading down from 3/4. We might be in an ok window to trade down to get him if the club so chooses.
      Apparently North looking only at midfielders in an article by Landsberger. That then leaves, based on the different interviews and articles today/yesterday, only now Carlton & Dogs as potentially interested Victorian teams holding a draft pick enticing enough to Brisbane to facilitate a trade.

      Afl.com.au says both Carlton & Dogs were into Schache before he signed earlier this year. So we've done all the due diligence obviously and wanted him 3 months ago. Interesting times ahead.
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      • Dry Rot
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6432

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Apparently North looking only at midfielders in an article by Landsberger. That then leaves, based on the different interviews and articles today/yesterday, only now Carlton & Dogs as potentially interested Victorian teams holding a draft pick enticing enough to Brisbane to facilitate a trade.
        OK, do the Blues have the assets to get this done?

        Schache isn't worth their first rounder, and that and/or their second rounder will be needed for their annual Giants clearance sale trade.

        That alone may just leave us, for better or worse.
        The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Originally posted by Dry Rot
          OK, do the Blues have the assets to get this done?

          Schache isn't worth their first rounder, and that and/or their second rounder will be needed for their annual Giants clearance sale trade.

          That alone may just leave us, for better or worse.
          I reckon. The best Carlton could do is swap 3 for 12. But that's a huge gamble with a top 3 pick if they did it. I'm pretty sure Jaksch is still fresh in their mind which was similar, so they might be shy. Plus they don't have a second rounder currently. So I reckon we are sitting pretty well and if we can do the 9/26/3rd2018 for 18/41/Schache that's a pretty good outcome for both clubs (values him around 14).
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          • boydogs
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 5842

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            Apparently North looking only at midfielders in an article by Landsberger. That then leaves, based on the different interviews and articles today/yesterday, only now Carlton & Dogs as potentially interested Victorian teams holding a draft pick enticing enough to Brisbane to facilitate a trade
            Richmond definitely out?
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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Originally posted by boydogs
              Richmond definitely out?
              So they say. Re-confirmed today that they are taking 15 & 17 to the draft. A few interviews hint at his salary, and I don't think Richmond could afford it.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Dry Rot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6432

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                So they say. Re-confirmed today that they are taking 15 & 17 to the draft. A few interviews hint at his salary, and I don't think Richmond could afford it.
                That's not a good sign with Schache. Leppisch would know him well.
                The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65964

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  Originally posted by chef
                  Hmm, maybe Schache was full of shit with what he told my daughter. They are pretty good friends so it's weird that he lied to her.

                  But hope we aren't after him, not what we need.
                  Nah, he was just holding the party line and not giving anything away, plus as GVGjr said, things can also change very quickly and suddenly he is interested.
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    I think the questions on Schache's ability are pretty harsh. Young 197 cm kpd's rarely set the world on fire early, especially when they are not settling in at the club, not happy in their private life (missing home) and are playing full forward for the worst team in the comp whose forward entries are haphazard at best.

                    He reminds me of a slightly larger Jack Riewoldt. His first 2 years versus Riewoldt stack up fairly comparably:

                    JR 26 games, 25 goals, 246 possessions, 113 marks.
                    JS 27 games, 25 goals, 238 possessions, 107 marks.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by mjp
                      Tim Walsh come on down.

                      Sorry but a big no thanks from me.
                      Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                      I think the questions on Schache's ability are pretty harsh. Young 197 cm kpd's rarely set the world on fire early, especially when they are not settling in at the club, not happy in their private life (missing home) and are playing full forward for the worst team in the comp whose forward entries are haphazard at best.

                      He reminds me of a slightly larger Jack Riewoldt. His first 2 years versus Riewoldt stack up fairly comparably:

                      JR 26 games, 25 goals, 246 possessions, 113 marks.
                      JS 27 games, 25 goals, 238 possessions, 107 marks.

                      Yeah that's all ok but what is Schache's singing voice like?
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 17903

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        Schache can at least mark the ball. He just about took more one grab over head marks in that highlights package than Tom Boyd has in the last 2 years (not knocking Boyd, just stating a fact).
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                        • kruder
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2011
                          • 3768

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Apparently North looking only at midfielders in an article by Landsberger. That then leaves, based on the different interviews and articles today/yesterday, only now Carlton & Dogs as potentially interested Victorian teams holding a draft pick enticing enough to Brisbane to facilitate a trade.

                          Afl.com.au says both Carlton & Dogs were into Schache before he signed earlier this year. So we've done all the due diligence obviously and wanted him 3 months ago. Interesting times ahead.
                          I cant see Carlton having a crack at him they need mids he would be too similar to Harry Macay, If we are keen on Schache he ends up at the Bulldogs.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            Brisbane are talking mid-late first round for Schache, we are talking similar for Stringer, Essendon are keen with 11 on the table. I wonder if a 3 way trade with some later picks thrown in is a possibiity. Both Essendon and Brisbane have been linked to Campbell in the past year or 2, wonder if he could be a factor?

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21542

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                              Brisbane are talking mid-late first round for Schache, we are talking similar for Stringer, Essendon are keen with 11 on the table. I wonder if a 3 way trade with some later picks thrown in is a possibiity. Both Essendon and Brisbane have been linked to Campbell in the past year or 2, wonder if he could be a factor?
                              Campbell and 11 for Schache and Martin, Stringer to EFC?
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 14861

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                                Brisbane are talking mid-late first round for Schache, we are talking similar for Stringer, Essendon are keen with 11 on the table. I wonder if a 3 way trade with some later picks thrown in is a possibiity. Both Essendon and Brisbane have been linked to Campbell in the past year or 2, wonder if he could be a factor?
                                I don't think Schache will be anywhere near as good as his draft ranking suggests but he's likely to be better than pick 11 this draft and draft watchers say he's ahead of the best tall forward in this draft (Brander) with two pre-seasons under his belt too.

                                First year was ok, second year terrible, well behind the mass of young talls Brisbane have (Hipwood looks a gun, they've got guys like Andrews and Smith and Freeman and Hammelmen and Close and Walker with Conor Ballenden this year who looks a good prospect).
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